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ocheewah
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USA
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Posted - 09/26/2005 :  07:59:53  Show Profile Send ocheewah a Private Message
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/09/26/evolution.debate.ap/index.html

Those who danced were thought quite insane by those who could not hear the music.

furshur
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USA
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Posted - 09/26/2005 :  09:32:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send furshur a Private Message
from the article:
quote:
"All the Dover school board did was allow students to get a glimpse of a controversy that is really boiling over in the scientific community," Thompson said.

Oh, fer crying out, what freaking controversy???



If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know.
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ocheewah
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USA
50 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2005 :  09:50:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ocheewah a Private Message
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_3060139
This probably ranks in the top ten most inane things I've read regarding creation/evolution yet.

Those who danced were thought quite insane by those who could not hear the music.
Edited by - ocheewah on 09/26/2005 10:01:12
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/26/2005 :  12:41:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
For all your Dover needs, see the Panda's Thumb.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/26/2005 :  13:48:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
And National Public Radio.

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trishran
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USA
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Posted - 09/27/2005 :  18:24:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send trishran a Private Message
I've noticed in articles [and in the Nova series about Evolution a few years ago], that the kids quoted in favor of teaching ID &/or creationism always seem to have a very sturdy grasp of the arguments in favor of creationism - including the kids who are speaking in favor of teaching these things in public school science classes. Seems to me that these kids are fully versed in ID/creationism, what more of it can they be taught in school? Espeically when you consider the time crunches so many schools face trying to cover all the things they are already required to teach, why should they waste the time covering a subject with which these kids are already intimately familiar?

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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  04:52:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by trishran

I've noticed in articles [and in the Nova series about Evolution a few years ago], that the kids quoted in favor of teaching ID &/or creationism always seem to have a very sturdy grasp of the arguments in favor of creationism - including the kids who are speaking in favor of teaching these things in public school science classes. Seems to me that these kids are fully versed in ID/creationism, what more of it can they be taught in school? Espeically when you consider the time crunches so many schools face trying to cover all the things they are already required to teach, why should they waste the time covering a subject with which these kids are already intimately familiar?


But they don't want to teach those kids. They want to teach the other kids, those who actually grok biology, to think like them. They want the political power that will come from this.

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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 09/29/2005 :  15:52:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Just watched a segemnt on MSNBC'c Abrahm's Report featuring Steven Meyer (the guy who subverted the editor of a formerly prestigious biological journal in order to get his paper published there) and Euginie Scott (of NCSE).

Let me just say, Meyer is an arrogant prick. He just wouldn't shut up, he talked over Scott and Abrahms both, refused to actually answer any questions, etc...

Atleast Abrahms stood up to him, called him on his nonsense. He should have just shut the guy's mic off, but all in all he did a fair job of dealing with him.


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DR_C
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USA
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Posted - 09/30/2005 :  00:01:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send DR_C a Private Message
Hello all,
The Pennsylvania ACLU is putting up reports on the trial on their blog, if anyone is interested (and I know some of you are). Here's the link.

http://aclupa.blogspot.com/

It's gonna be an interesting few weeks.

Edited to correct my late night bad grammer.

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Bill: "Looks like he rushed it."

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Edited by - DR_C on 09/30/2005 00:09:13
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Kil
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USA
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Posted - 09/30/2005 :  06:55:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by DR_C

Hello all,
The Pennsylvania ACLU is putting up reports on the trial on their blog, if anyone is interested (and I know some of you are). Here's the link.

http://aclupa.blogspot.com/

It's gonna be an interesting few weeks.

Edited to correct my late night bad grammer.

Thanks for the link Dr_C.

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