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mooser745
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Posted - 11/09/2005 : 21:47:13
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I just finished reading an article on Marilyn's death (this month's Playboy mag...which also has a great interview with Pacino and another good read on Super Bowl tix bookies.) I'm not an expert (although I admit to being a Forensic Files junkie), there were a few points that the article brought up that really make me wonder how it could have been classified as an "apparent suicide" and not further investigated as a murder. Though this might be fun to discuss...as I'm sure everyone has an opinion on theory. Feel free to add your thoughts:
1) Her house was completely bugged, under 24/7 surveillance from all sorts of people (FBI, CIA, Hoffa, etc.) So how could no one have heard, or even better, had a tape of what happened that night?
2) The autopsy report was compromised, with a majority of the substances reported "missing"...including that from her stomach (her death, they say, was caused from taking 30-40 pills...but how could that be confirmed without proper testing?)
3) She was planning to re-marry Joe DiMaggio (according to his niece), so the idea of killing herself (and not really leaving a note, or calling him) doesn't seem to really make sense to me.
Mike
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 11/09/2005 : 22:52:03 [Permalink]
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Hello Mike and welcome to Skeptic Friends Network!
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/10/2005 : 00:11:08 [Permalink]
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Hi Mike, and welcome...
It is pretty much accepted that MM died of a pill overdose, probably intentional. Linked is a brief biography.
However, she had so many seedy associations, including mobster Sam Giancana, that it is tough to be certain. This has spawned many conspiricy theories, including one I heard some years ago that the Kennedys had her offed due to both Jack and Bobby wanting her, and it was breaking up the family.
The long & short of it is: I don't know....
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ronnywhite
SFN Regular
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Posted - 11/10/2005 : 00:27:28 [Permalink]
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Welcome to SFN, mooser.
Playboy has some good articles and interviews, and I've been laughed at more than once over the years when I've (seriously) mentioned that I liked "reading it" (haven't in a while... I'm too cheap to buy a subsciption, and the library doesn't carry it.) RE Marilyn Monroe, she was a messed-up person who likely rubbed-shoulders with too many powerful people for her own good, and maybe theirs... but probably a suicide, possibly accidental.
RE filthy's mention of Chicago gangster Giancona...
"I steal."
His reply to the draft board when asked how he made a living (Giancona's- not filthy's.)
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ktesibios
SFN Regular
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Posted - 11/10/2005 : 14:39:30 [Permalink]
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quote: Originally posted by ronnywhite
RE filthy's mention of Chicago gangster Giancona...
"I steal."
His reply to the draft board when asked how he made a living (Giancona's- not filthy's.)
IIRC (it's been a long time since I read that biography of Giancana), he wound up being classified 4-F as a psychopath.
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Robb
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 11/10/2005 : 14:47:10 [Permalink]
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The real story:
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,17109,00.html
quote: Marilyn Monroe was killed by what she loved: An enema.
Or from Monroe's own mouth:
quote: For what it's worth, a psychiatry professor who bills himself as a "pioneer in past-life regression therapy," and has a client he is convinced is the reincarnation of Monroe, says he thinks the transcripts sound like the late actress.
She didn't want to die," Finkelstein said, "but she realized she took too much. It was an accidental overdose."
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