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Randy
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Posted - 11/20/2005 :  18:30:24  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message
"What I Believe" on NPR is an occasional personal essay submitted by listeners. It's based on a earlier radio program from the fifties.
I just happened by the NPR site just now and notice Penn, of the Penn and Teller fame, added his two cents....

There is No God
by Penn Jillette

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5015557



"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson

Edited by - Randy on 11/20/2005 18:31:13

pleco
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Posted - 11/20/2005 :  18:41:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
The William F. Buckley about beleiving in god made me laugh...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4656595

Same old tired arguments....

by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart.
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Randy
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Posted - 11/20/2005 :  19:11:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by pleco

The William F. Buckley about beleiving in god made me laugh...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4656595

Same old tired arguments....


I remember hearing that.....religilogic.....several weeks ago.
(tip-o-the-hat to dude!)

"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson
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ronnywhite
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Posted - 11/20/2005 :  19:23:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ronnywhite a Private Message
Buckley, for all intensive purposes, is a politician. In an inteview, when asked who the smartest man he'd ever known was (for example) he replied "Ronald Reagan." What Buckley actually believes (as with many other political personalities) is anybody's guess. He's had a few interesting rants here and there... aside from that, I've never been able to figure out why he, singularly, is the only writer I've ever encountered who seems to feel the English language is inadequate to express his messages, with resorting to Latin being necessary (???) 30% of the time.

Oh ya, almost fergot. Religillogical is a good one... we'd have to ask Buckley to be sure, but I think it's synonomous with theoillogical... but, considering his political nature, Buckley's answer would be "No comment" (in Latin, of course.)

Ron White
Edited by - ronnywhite on 11/20/2005 19:32:15
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astropin
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Posted - 11/21/2005 :  12:01:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send astropin a Private Message
Penn always comes on preety strong, but you gotta love him; well I do anyway.

I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.

You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.

Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.

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Jumbo
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Posted - 11/29/2005 :  03:13:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Jumbo a Private Message
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This I believe: that it is intellectually easier to credit a divine intelligence than to submit dumbly to felicitous congeries about nature.


He is correct here. It is intellectually easier. If you just says [deity of choice] did it then you dont have to tax your intellect doing any actual research any more.

I have to say this from Mr Jillete is a lovely quote:
quote:
“I'm not greedy. I have love, blue skies, rainbows, and Hallmark cards, and that has to be enough… It seems just rude to beg the invisible for more. ”

Ive tried to say things along those lines when told that my lack of religion and love of science means that my world is somehow less beautiful and worthwhile but i never encapsulated it like that.

The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be lighted
Edited by - Jumbo on 11/29/2005 03:15:00
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moakley
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Posted - 11/29/2005 :  05:43:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message
And that's the bottom line. Thank You Penn Jillette.
quote:
... all the other things I can prove and that make this life the best life I will ever have.

I find it outrageous when the religious claim to have a more meaningful life. As pointed out previously, "Religion stops a thinking mind." As soon as I started accepting responsibility for the bad things in my life I knew I had to make changes instead of asking for changes to occur.

Life is good

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous
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