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dodo
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Posted - 12/27/2005 :  01:51:33  Show Profile Send dodo a Private Message
yesterday night i woke up at 5 a.m. and when i just woke up i saw two white and one blue light flashing just in front of my eyes and there was a sound like a message delivered to phone when it was in silent mode; i mean the vibrating sound of the phone. i looked for something in the room for a thing that may produce such a thing but i am just ran out of ideas. i am trying to find a logical reason for that but i can not. the door was locked and the curtains were closed too. has anyone has a logical reason or ideas for that???

filthy
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Posted - 12/27/2005 :  05:41:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by dodo

yesterday night i woke up at 5 a.m. and when i just woke up i saw two white and one blue light flashing just in front of my eyes and there was a sound like a message delivered to phone when it was in silent mode; i mean the vibrating sound of the phone. i looked for something in the room for a thing that may produce such a thing but i am just ran out of ideas. i am trying to find a logical reason for that but i can not. the door was locked and the curtains were closed too. has anyone has a logical reason or ideas for that???


I don't know. But I have had experiences when just waking up, of a sort of unreality; perhaps a holdover from dreams. Not saying this is what happened to you, but it sounds kinda like it.

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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 12/27/2005 :  06:36:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
You may have had a hypnogoggic hallucination (classified as a mild form of narcolepsy), which usually happen just as you wake or fall asleep. The mind awakens and the subconcious continues playing dream imagery which blends with your waking vision. Sometimes this is combined with sleep paralisis, which is the cause of soo many of the alien abduction stories you wouldnt believe.

This used to happen to me when I was younger and it terrified me untill I found out what was happening.

The visions I had included: daylight when it was night, familiar voices, pile of clothes looking like a person etc...I did try to get the lotto numbers once, no luck though.

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Edited by - BigPapaSmurf on 12/27/2005 06:38:09
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Ricky
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Posted - 12/27/2005 :  07:24:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
Things such as BPS suggested happen to everyone every now and then. I have this recurring dream where when I'm just about to fall asleep, I think I'm falling, and I wake up, but I still feel like I'm falling. So I reach over to put my hands down to cushion my fall, but I'm really lying flat on my bed.

When you say flashing, were they stationary? Did they flash more than once? Did they flash multiple times while moving? Or could you not tell?

For the vibrating, did you just hear it, or did you feel it?

And you don't happen to have a vibrating phone that has blue and white lights, do you?

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Edited by - Ricky on 12/27/2005 07:25:54
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dodo
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Posted - 12/27/2005 :  07:34:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send dodo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky

Things such as BPS suggested happen to everyone every now and then. I have this recurring dream where when I'm just about to fall asleep, I think I'm falling, and I wake up, but I still feel like I'm falling. So I reach over to put my hands down to cushion my fall, but I'm really lying flat on my bed.

When you say flashing, were they stationary? Did they flash more than once? Did they flash multiple times while moving? Or could you not tell?

For the vibrating, did you just hear it, or did you feel it?

And you don't happen to have a vibrating phone that has blue and white lights, do you?



no they just flashed in order; white, white and blue and they were not moving and no i have no such a lighty phone and i just heard the vibrating sound of it, all of these happpened for just once
Edited by - dodo on 12/27/2005 07:45:53
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dodo
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Posted - 12/27/2005 :  07:37:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send dodo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

You may have had a hypnogoggic hallucination (classified as a mild form of narcolepsy), which usually happen just as you wake or fall asleep. The mind awakens and the subconcious continues playing dream imagery which blends with your waking vision. Sometimes this is combined with sleep paralisis, which is the cause of soo many of the alien abduction stories you wouldnt believe.

This used to happen to me when I was younger and it terrified me untill I found out what was happening.

The visions I had included: daylight when it was night, familiar voices, pile of clothes looking like a person etc...I did try to get the lotto numbers once, no luck though.



as far as i know the subconcious plays dream imagery only in REM and REM lasts for 15 to 20 minutes after the falling into sleep am i wrong???
Edited by - dodo on 12/27/2005 08:14:34
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pleco
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Posted - 12/27/2005 :  07:52:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
hypnogoggic hallucination ... happened to me a couple of times. I "dreamed" that I was laying on the sofa, and could see what was happening, but couldn't move or talk.

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Dude
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Posted - 01/01/2006 :  00:39:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
quote:
as far as i know the subconcious plays dream imagery only in REM and REM lasts for 15 to 20 minutes after the falling into sleep am i wrong???


You are partly right, in that REM sleep typically comes in short bursts. You usually go through a couple of REM cycles during a good night's sleep.

As has been said already, it sounds like you had a hypnogogic halucination. These happen on waking sometimes.

Is 5am near to your usual waking time? If it is within an hour or so of when you normally get up, then it is almost a sure bet that you experienced a partially lucid dream, or hypnogogic hallucination.

For anyone who has ever deliberately attempted to induce a state of lucid dreaming in themselves, one of the techniques you can use is to deliberately wake yourself 30 to 90 minutes earlier than usual, then immediately try to return to sleep by running through some basic meditation techniques while focusing your mind on attaining a lucid dreaming state. This is basically an exploitation of the hypnogogic hallucination that you can experience if you are awakened during or close to a REM cycle.

If you experience this unknowingly I guess it could be pretty frightening. Not knowing that you are actually dreaming, but seeing dream images.... could scare the crap out of you. Especially if it is accompanied by sleep paralysis.


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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 01/01/2006 :  14:50:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by dodo
as far as i know the subconcious plays dream imagery only in REM and REM lasts for 15 to 20 minutes after the falling into sleep am i wrong???


I've been taught that a sleep cycle is about 90 minutes long, and the REM state occurs at the end of the cycle. The cycle starts with light sleep, then quickly progress to deep sleep. Depending on which sleep-cycle you're in since you entered sleep, the deep-sleep periods gets shorter. After the deep-sleep, conciousness level rises to intermediate sleep for a while, then rise a bit more and enter REM.

If you're taking a nap, ther optimum time for the nap would be ~90min. If you only get 30 minutes because you set the alarm, you may be in the deep-sleep when waking up, and you'll feel more tired than when you started the nap.

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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/01/2006 :  18:55:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by dodo
has anyone has a logical reason or ideas for that???

A brain tumor comes to mind. You might want to get a medical evaluation.


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Espritch
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Posted - 01/01/2006 :  20:11:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Espritch's Homepage Send Espritch a Private Message
I once woke up late at night to find this bright light flashing on and off in my bed room and an odd buzzing noise. I was still half asleep and it seemed very strange. It took me a few moments to figure out that a fire fly had gotten into my room and got caught in a spider web.
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beskeptigal
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Posted - 01/02/2006 :  15:58:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
I always see the BIG spider racing across my pillow when I wake up in one of those hallucination states. I jump up and look everywhere finally realizing it was a half awake half asleep dream.

I've also awakened to some noise that was incorporated into my dream but upon waking up found the noise real. One time I remember it was this weird scratching noise coming from the door to a building I was walking toward. When I woke up my dog was scratching to be let in the room. Another time it was a pirate movie on TV.
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