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Dude
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Posted - 01/03/2006 :  14:22:43  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/01/ken_miller_in_c_1.html

Should be interesting.

The links to the actual webcast site are on the page I link to above. Starts at 7pm... going to guess central time.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth

Dude
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Posted - 01/03/2006 :  17:35:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
7pm EST.... not central.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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the_ignored
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Posted - 01/03/2006 :  17:43:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
Look at: Comment #67074

Dembski's shutting down his blog.

quote:
Note that this is NOT like the usual Dembski, who can#8217;t keep his mouth shut most times. It highly suggests that the DI is keeping a very short leash on him these days, while they try to push the #8220;ID is not religious#8221; slogan, that Dembski in many public comments has seen fit to scuttle himself.

In fact, it seems reasonable to conclude that cross examination of Dembski at trial would have revealed his many public statements of the religious nature of ID, hence that#8217;s why his #8220;expert#8221; testimony was not, er #8220;required#8221;#8230;

I hope somebody out there made a library of some of the dumbass stuff Dembski said on UD before it becomes truly #8220;mothballed#8221;.

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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the_ignored
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Posted - 01/03/2006 :  18:12:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
Note that in that Panda's Thumb comments section they comment of Dembski not showing up at the debate. Same comment number I listed before.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/59
Yet Dembski's the one who once said:
quote:
I therefore await the day when the hearings are not voluntary but involve subpoenas that compel evolutionists to be deposed and interrogated at length on their views. There are ways for this to happen, and the wheels are in motion (e.g., Congressional hearings over the teaching of biology in federally funded high schools for military kids). For such hearings to have the desired effect, however, will require that evolutionists be asked the right questions.



He wants to interrogate scientists, but he's too fucking cowardly to show up an an oral debate (which is the only kind of debate their kind likes in the first place)?


What a sodding hypocrite.

Too bad he wasn't even allowed by the DI to go to the Dover Trial.


>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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Kil
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Posted - 01/03/2006 :  19:04:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/01/ken_miller_in_c_1.html

Should be interesting.

The links to the actual webcast site are on the page I link to above. Starts at 7pm... going to guess central time.



Just finished listning. It was good!

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Dude
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Posted - 01/03/2006 :  19:06:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Yeah, watched it. Was pretty good.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Starman
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Sweden
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  02:08:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
It is archived now.
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/01/ken_miller_webc.html
quote:
No definitive info on how long they'll last, but rumor has it that normal is two months.
Edited by - Starman on 01/05/2006 02:09:29
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filthy
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Posted - 01/05/2006 :  03:38:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Dang it! My pathetic excuse for a computer won't handle it without shutting everything else down. And then I get it in bits and pieces spaced a long way apart.

The last thing Dembski wants is to get the likes of Joe Meert, Glenn Morton, or Gary Hurd on the stand under oath, expecally if he too must testify. But I guess it sounds good even though, at this point at least, it ain't happenin'. It is easy to be brave in the face of small threat.

I can understand his frustration. Thus far, everything he's touched has turned to shit -- with the possible exception of his barbecue joint. But y'know, if he really wants to vent his spleen, he could always come here.....

DI is wise to keep this blithering loose-cannon closely tethered.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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moakley
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USA
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Posted - 01/07/2006 :  15:07:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message
Just finished watching. Definitely enjoyed it. Dr. Ken Miller is a very good speaker.

Life is good

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous
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