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Siberia
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Posted - 01/11/2006 : 11:01:12 [Permalink]
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quote: Originally posted by filthy
quote: Originally posted by H. Humbert
quote: Originally posted by Dude Photoshop strikes again.
I agree.
As for the origin of the mythological cyclops, I have heard it surmised that the Greeks may have found an elephant skull and mistook the opening for the trunk as being a single eye socket.
I dunno; I've always had a problem with this. the greeks were pretty fair anatomists and surely knew the holes in skulls of all sorts. And while I've read nothing on it, they and other cultures of the times were experienced seafarers and concievably familiar with pacyderms.
I think that they, like all of us, simply invented monsters.
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marfknox
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/11/2006 : 17:49:35 [Permalink]
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quote: Originally posted by filthy I dunno; I've always had a problem with this. the greeks were pretty fair anatomists and surely knew the holes in skulls of all sorts. And while I've read nothing on it, they and other cultures of the times were experienced seafarers and concievably familiar with pacyderms.
I think that they, like all of us, simply invented monsters.
Yeah, I posted that while I still thought this was a hoax. Now that I know this is a legitimate birth defect occuring throughout the animal kingdom (including in goats, which the Greeks almost certainly kept), then it doesn't seem much of a stretch to see how such a strange feature could be incorporated into their mythology and assigned to a humanoid.
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Edited by - H. Humbert on 01/11/2006 18:07:46 |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/11/2006 : 19:35:28 [Permalink]
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quote: Originally posted by H. Humbert
Now that I know this is a legitimate birth defect occuring throughout the animal kingdom (including in goats, which the Greeks almost certainly kept), then it doesn't seem much of a stretch to see how such a strange feature could be incorporated into their mythology and assigned to a humanoid.
Most likely, it happened to a Greek child, and was incorporated into their mythology. That's what I found on the human pathology site I visited, photos of two different foetuses with cyclopia (presumably spontaneously aborted). |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/11/2006 : 19:40:16 [Permalink]
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quote: Originally posted by Dave W. Most likely, it happened to a Greek child, and was incorporated into their mythology. That's what I found on the human pathology site I visited, photos of two different foetuses with cyclopia (presumably spontaneously aborted).
Ok, I hadn't seen any human fetuses that exhibited this defect. That certainly seems a likely explanation as well.
Now, anyone know of a genetic abnormality that causes babies to be born with snakes growing out of their heads?
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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Edited by - H. Humbert on 01/11/2006 19:40:41 |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/11/2006 : 19:44:33 [Permalink]
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quote: Originally posted by H. Humbert
Now, anyone know of a genetic abnormality that causes babies to be born with snakes growing out of their heads?
Seems more plausible to me than a birth defect which allows the victim to turn people to stone by looking at them... |
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Hawks
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Posted - 01/11/2006 : 20:15:08 [Permalink]
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quote: Originally posted by H. Humbert Now, anyone know of a genetic abnormality that causes babies to be born with snakes growing out of their heads?
It's uncommon, but it happens. At times, lizards and newts are afflicted with this condition. See Nature 2001, vol 254 page 1154 for the condition called medusia. |
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Hawks
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Posted - 01/11/2006 : 20:20:42 [Permalink]
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yeah, right. Anyhow, this is my 300th post. |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/11/2006 : 21:18:19 [Permalink]
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quote: Originally posted by Hawks
yeah, right. Anyhow, this is my 300th post.
Congratulations. And no, I didn't actually believe it. I was just seeing what you were trying to link to. Sheesh.
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Siberia
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Posted - 01/12/2006 : 05:17:46 [Permalink]
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Hey, dreadlocks look like thick snakes if seen from afar... |
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beskeptigal
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Siberia
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Posted - 01/12/2006 : 16:28:09 [Permalink]
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quote: Originally posted by beskeptigal
I give you craniopagus parasiticus. Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Holy...! |
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furshur
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Posted - 01/18/2006 : 14:06:56 [Permalink]
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If there is a God I hope he just isn't paying attention instead of doing shit like that on purpose. Damn, poor kid(s).
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 01/22/2006 : 23:58:37 [Permalink]
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furshur wrote: quote: If there is a God I hope he just isn't paying attention instead of doing shit like that on purpose. Damn, poor kid(s).
Man, is that ever creepy. Glad they saved the one twin.
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