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furshur
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 Posted - 01/25/2006 : 07:06:06 [Permalink]
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While you might think of yourself as smarter than the average ape, beware: Those distant relatives of ours have a knack for evolving more quickly than we do.
Why should we beware??? The implication is that if apes are evolving faster than us they will eventually be smarter than us. We have this built in prejudice that says we are the 'crown of creation' or the 'highest evolved'. Which means since we are so freaking smart, and we are the highest evolved, then evolution must be trying to make bigger brains.
BUZZZZZZZZZZ.
If chimps are evolving 'faster' than humans that just means they will become 'better' chimps not turn into people.
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UncleJ
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Posted - 01/25/2006 : 08:56:36 [Permalink]
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Hawks,
I'm enjoying our discussion but don't have a lot of time reply right now. I will respond in more length tonight. I just downloaded the paper but haven't had time to read it. I'll email you a copy if you pm me your email address.
UncleJ
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pleco
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Posted - 01/25/2006 : 09:05:11 [Permalink]
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UncleJ
New Member
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Posted - 01/25/2006 : 20:02:42 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Hawks
I might just have misunderstood the point of your post just before my reply? What was the point of including your explanation of the mutations in (presumably exonic) codons.
Come to think of it, the MSNBC article was not talking about non-coding regions. It was talking about non-functional regions. These two will not necessarily be the same. But then I can't find the original PNAS article, so I'm not really sure what they're talking about.
Including the codon mutations in the explanation was to illustrate that it was easier to grade the effect of changes in protein coding sequences compared to non-coding regions. Now that I know your background it was obviously an unnecessarily drawn out explanation.
The MSNBC article was incorrect when they stated:
“However, Yi and her colleagues looked only at mutations in non-functional regions of DNA, changes that don't affect evolution”
The authors of the study looked at introns and intergenic regions. These areas are definitely functional in gene regulation and are arguably incredibly important in evolution.
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Originally posted by Dude
There are numerous non-coding regions that play important roles in gene expression and regulation. The expression of a specific gene at a specific stage of developement... is not something I would classify as "of questionable effect".
To clarify my poor choice of words:
I meant “questionable effect” more like “unknown effect” not like “unimportant effect”. I agree that gene regulation is very important. I was trying to make the point that it's harder to determine the effect of a mutation in a non-coding region.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 01/25/2006 : 20:25:29 [Permalink]
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I was trying to make the point that it's harder to determine the effect of a mutation in a non-coding region.
Yeah.
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