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filthy
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 Posted - 01/26/2006 : 06:56:32 [Permalink]
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Yes, and, other than for 'cutting people open', scalpels have fallen into disfavour among medical professionals 
And using them to help restore blood flow seems to me to give them a fairly broad area of use.
Still, I must bow to your superior knowledge of the subject.
I just wish I could find where I read that leeches have pain-relieving effects... I don't know how reliable the source was.
This is ancedotal, but from my own experience they do, slightly. I have provided sustanance to leechs on a fair number of occasions, and you never feel them rasping their hole. After the animal has had Copenhagen spat on it and it drops off, the site of the bite remains very slightly numb for a while. Also bloody; they have a very effecent anti-coagulent in their saliva.
As for general pain relief, I very much doubt it.
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Hawks
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Posted - 01/26/2006 : 14:38:38 [Permalink]
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After the animal has had Copenhagen spat on it and it drops off,...
Spitting Copenhagen??? |
METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/26/2006 : 14:42:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Hawks
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After the animal has had Copenhagen spat on it and it drops off,...
Spitting Copenhagen???
I believe filthy is recommending a little tobacco juice for easy leech removal.  (Copenhagen is a brand of smokeless tobacco here in the States.)
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filthy
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Posted - 01/26/2006 : 15:07:02 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Hawks
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After the animal has had Copenhagen spat on it and it drops off,...
Spitting Copenhagen???
It's a brand of snuff. I've been addicted to it and cut plug chewing tobacco since age 14.
"Snoose," as a Scandinavian (Swedish? Don't recall) shipmate used to call it.
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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Hawks
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Posted - 01/26/2006 : 15:41:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
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Originally posted by Hawks
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After the animal has had Copenhagen spat on it and it drops off,...
Spitting Copenhagen???
It's a brand of snuff. I've been addicted to it and cut plug chewing tobacco since age 14.
"Snoose," as a Scandinavian (Swedish? Don't recall) shipmate used to call it.
He probably was swedish. "Snus" is a very popular alternative to cigarettes over there. There's no chewing involved, though. Stick it under your lip and let that nicotine soak through your gums. I've tried it a few times and it always makes me fell really sick. |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/26/2006 : 15:52:28 [Permalink]
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There's no chewing involved, though. Stick it under your lip and let that nicotine soak through your gums. I've tried it a few times and it always makes me fell really sick.
Yep, that's what Copenhagen is. Shredded and loose and damp, you just pack it under your lower lip. My friends and I always refer to this type of tobacco as "dip." Not sure how slangy or how recent a term that is. Could be a regional thing as well. Then again, maybe that's what it's called everywhere. filthy should know.
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Dude
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Posted - 01/26/2006 : 16:00:09 [Permalink]
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Yep, that's what Copenhagen is. Shredded and loose and damp, you just pack it under your lower lip. My friends and I always refer to this type of tobacco as "dip." Not sure how slangy or how recent a term that is. Could be a regional thing as well. Then again, maybe that's what it's called everywhere.
If it comes in a small round can, its called dip.
If it comes in a bag its called chew.
I don't think it is regional, in my experience it has been called by those names in IL, FL, and by people in the Army when I was in (who are from all over the place). Can't recall having heard different names for it.
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/26/2006 : 17:40:47 [Permalink]
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I don't think it is regional, in my experience it has been called by those names in IL, FL, and by people in the Army when I was in (who are from all over the place). Can't recall having heard different names for it.
Alright, cool, I wasn't sure if dip was a midwest thing or not. filthy called it snuff, but that to me means a loose powder you sniff up your nose. I've never actually seen this kind of snuff, only heard or read about it.
Ah, here we go, from Wikipedia:
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European (dry) snuff is intended to be sniffed up the nose. Snuff is not "snorted" due to the fact that you do not want the snuff to get past the nose i.e.; into sinuses, throat or lungs. European snuff comes in several varieties: Plain, Toast (fine ground - very dry), "Medicated" (menthol, camphor, eucalyptus, etc.), Scented and Schmalzler (a German variety.) The major brand names of European snuff are: Bernards (Germany), Fribourg & Treyer (UK), Gawith (UK), Gawith Hoggarth (UK), Hedges (UK), Lotzbeck (Germany), McChrystal's (UK), Pöschl (Germany) and Wilsons of Sharrow (UK).
Snuff has even been found to be beneficial in some cases of hay fever due to the fact that the snuff may prevent allergins from getting to the mucus membrane within the nose.
American snuff is much stronger, and is intended to be dipped. It comes in two varieties -- "sweet" and "salty". Until the early 20th century, snuff dipping was popular in the United States among rural people, who would often use sweet barkless twigs to apply it to their gums. Popular brands are Tube Rose and Navy.
The second, and more popular in North America, variety of snuff is moist snuff, or dipping tobacco. This is occasionally referred to as "snoose" derived from the Scandinavian word for snuff, "snus". Like the word, the origins of moist snuff are Scandinavian, and the oldest American brands indicate that by their names. American Moist snuff is made from dark fire-cured tobacco that is ground, sweetened, and aged by the factory. Prominent North American brands are Copenhagen, Skoal, Chisholm, and Kodiak also Grizzly. American moist snuff tends to be dipped.
Ok, I knew almost none of that.
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ronnywhite
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Posted - 01/28/2006 : 13:26:14 [Permalink]
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