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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 02/02/2006 :  16:44:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
beskeptigal intonated:
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Gonzales and Meyers are the legal advisors, flithy. My Little Crony and Mr Torture is OK by me.

I rememeber being very impressed by something I saw a year or two ago.

Bush was speaking before cameras. Gonzales was standing behind and slightly to the side of the president. As Bush spoke, the purest expression of hero worship and, yes, unbounded love, was clear on Gonzales' face as he gazed wide-eyed at his boss. (Maybe someone else will remember that scene. Sorry, I can recall no other details.) This creeped me out.

I recall thinking of Gonzales at that time, "That guy will do or say anything his true love wants. Bush won't be getting any kind of unbiased legal legal opinions from him!"

With totally lickspittle lackeys like Gonzales, Bush's legal advice is always going to be limited to justifications after the fact, rather than any counsel of restraint.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 02/02/2006 16:55:33
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard

USA
3834 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2006 :  02:50:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
It's funny you would find that look in one of Bush's male appointees. Randi Rhodes went on about the women around Bush in a similar way. She called them his nannys. Rice and Meyers, both older, single, adoring of their little charge. There is something creepy about that as well.
Edited by - beskeptigal on 02/03/2006 02:50:43
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2006 :  03:28:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Beskeptigal put forth:
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It's funny you would find that look in one of Bush's male appointees. Randi Rhodes went on about the women around Bush in a similar way. She called them his nannys. Rice and Meyers, both older, single, adoring of their little charge. There is something creepy about that as well.

Maybe I noticed it because the spectacle stood out from (even though it was identical to) the way women around Bush give him googly eyes. Now that you call my attention to it, I recall seeing the same look on Harriet Meyer's face around the time of her nomination to the Supremes, but I gave it little thought at the time. (Thinking this unconscious besotted behavior was normal in Meyer's case, while peculiar in Gonzales' might be the result of a bit of lingering homophobia and sexism on my part, but it also may have been because it stood out so much in such a Bible-thumping, homophobic Administration.)

I really do think Gonzales has the "hots" for W. Call it male intuition if you like; I'll call it "cold reading." I think it's creepy that anyone is attracted in that way to Bush, but it's especially disturbing to see this in the President's lawyers, whatever their genders.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Edited by - HalfMooner on 02/03/2006 04:04:13
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie

USA
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Posted - 02/03/2006 :  07:00:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
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Originally posted by Dude

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the request for the Line Item Veto, which sounded like it was thrown in randomly anyway, was actually ruled unconstitutional long ago.


The dems gave that power to old Ronny... and it was overruled sometime during Clinton's admin.

I forget what the argument against it was... prob find something about it on a google search later though.





My bets are on that Clinton was using it and not some Republican President.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 02/03/2006 :  17:00:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
The lights are on but ain't nobody home.
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There's a common theme underlying the botched reconstruction of Iraq, the botched response to Katrina (which Mr. Bush never mentioned), the botched drug program, and the nonexistent energy program.

John DiIulio, the former White House head of faith-based policy, explained it more than three years ago. He told the reporter Ron Suskind how this administration operates: "There is no precedent in any modern White House for what is going on in this one: a complete lack of a policy apparatus. ... I heard many, many staff discussions but not three meaningful, substantive policy discussions. There were no actual policy white papers on domestic issues."

In other words, this administration is all politics and no policy. It knows how to attain power, but has no idea how to govern. That's why the administration was caught unaware when Katrina hit, and why it was totally unprepared for the predictable problems with its drug plan. It's why Mr. Bush announced an energy plan with no substance behind it. And it's why the state of the union — the thing itself, not the speech — is so grim.



"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 02/03/2006 :  17:03:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Fascinating, filthy! Thanks for sharing that.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 02/03/2006 :  23:41:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
filthy, that article about how Bush is "all politics and no policy" reminded me of his dramatic pledge to send a manned mission to Mars, which has turned out to be no more than empty speechifying. Then that got me thinking about Dave Chapelle's spoof where he played the part of "Black President Bush," one of the funniest things I've ever seen. "We're going to Mars, bitches!"

I was able to find this clip online, although unfortunately it cuts off short of the part where he unveils his plans for Mars. Still, it's good stuff. Keep in mind that it first aired near the end of Bush's first term: Black President Bush


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 02/03/2006 23:47:34
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 02/04/2006 :  00:04:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Thanks, H.H.! That was very funny. Sadly, though, I liked Chapelle's Black Bush more than I like the real one. Mo' REAL, y'hear?

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 02/04/2006 :  00:36:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Chapelle is supposed to have a new season in 2006. If they can drag him out of Africa and convince him to honor the $50M contract he signed.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 02/04/2006 :  01:06:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Dude touted:
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Chapelle is supposed to have a new season in 2006. If they can drag him out of Africa and convince him to honor the $50M contract he signed.


I hope so, because he's a brilliantly funny guy. Apparently he admitted on Oprah that he'd recently gone crazy. I didn't see the show. Not uncommon for a comedian; it seems to be a job hazard.

I remember Dave Chapelle playing the part of a blind old man, a Wizard in the KKK. He was a thoroughly racist, n-word-spouting bastard, so much so, none of his Klan buddies had the heart to inform him that he was black.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 02/04/2006 01:09:06
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 02/06/2006 :  04:32:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
One last take on this pathetic, SOTU turkey from The top Ten Conservative Idiots They dedicated the whole column to it this week:
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Ask most Americans and they'll tell you that the State of the Union sucks. Not according to Our Great Leader, who last week gave a big ol' speech full of... stuff. A great deal of that stuff was clearly intended to keep him afloat politically, rather than to achieve any meaningful ends. But if you were looking for lies, distortions and misrepresentations, you couldn't have found a better place to be than in front of the television last Tuesday night. This week we're going to focus solely on the State of the Union Address, so buckle up, and as usual don't forget the key!

Note: all quotes from the speech can be found in the official White House transcript here.

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Animal Magnetism
And finally, forget Osama bin Laden - George W. Bush has a new enemy in the war on terror. His name is Dr. Moreau, and apparently he lives on an island. While discussing scientific and medical research, Our Great Leader dropped this bombshell:

Tonight I ask you to pass legislation to prohibit the most egregious abuses of medical research: human cloning in all its forms, creating or implanting embryos for experiments, creating human-animal hybrids, and buying, selling, or patenting human embryos.

Human-animal hybrids?



You know, perhaps Congress does need to take the human-animal hybrid threat seriously.

Indeed.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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