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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie

USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2006 :  13:34:57  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
So, what is everyone planning on Darwin's 197th birthday. I'm planning on watching Daytona qualifying and relaxing.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2006 :  14:27:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
I'll be planning something for me and my girlfriend's 10th anniversery on the 14th.

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"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse

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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard

USA
3834 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2006 :  03:00:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
I'll be going to a class on antibiotic resistance. That's certainly appropriate.
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
4907 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2006 :  08:27:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
Playing football. After all, it is survival of the fittest.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2006 :  10:23:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
The challenge was made last Monday, so I will be firing an impromptu belly-gun match with a few friends (2 of them county mounties), during which, I shall cheat shamelessly. There is money involved; a modest sum, true, but money never the less.

They will be firing standard ammunition, 9 mm mostly, and I have just finished hand-loading 50 rounds of puffers for my .38 spl wheelgun. It will be 5 seconds for 5 rounds, so low recoil and a fast recovery time between shots is of paramount importance.

Afterward, at the traditional after-match visit to the gin mill, I'll take my winnings and buy a round in honor of Darwin.






"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 02/11/2006 :  11:11:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
I shall sacrifice virgins.
The only hard part is finding the virgins...

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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marfknox
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3739 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2006 :  14:34:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message
I might go to a Darwin Day celebration at the University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology. They are having 15 minute lectures and showing a film. Plus it's a really really cool museum. But things start at 1PM, I tend to sleep in, and parking is a bitch. So I'd say it is a 50/50 chance.

I can't wait until I have kids and I'm actually motivated to really get out and do these kinds of community activities.

"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2006 :  18:03:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
I intend to combine the firearms fun of filthy, with marfknox's more social plan. I'll take my assault-rigged Mossberg Model 500 with 00-buck loads, go to a local church, and declare the building to henceforth be "The Temple of Reason and Evolution."

No, I guess I'll just sleep in, 100% chance.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2006 :  19:06:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HalfMooner

I intend to combine the firearms fun of filthy, with marfknox's more social plan. I'll take my assault-rigged Mossberg Model 500 with 00-buck loads, go to a local church, and declare the building to henceforth be "The Temple of Reason and Evolution."

No, I guess I'll just sleep in, 100% chance.



Oy veh! A Mossy 500! I want one, even though I am a mediocer shotgunner at best. I think it's because they look so ferocious. And they hold all of those lovely shells.

Alas, it will be a while before I can afford such a thing, and even then, I will probably blow the roll on a pistol, ever my firearm of choice. I'm wishfully dreaming about a Clark built, 1911, .45 ACP.

Go with #1 buck. The weight of metal is about the same, but you have double the pellets.

And have a fine Darwin's day!




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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R.Wreck
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USA
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Posted - 02/11/2006 :  20:11:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
Maybe I'll go to church. With any luck there will be a good sermon.

The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley

The Cattle Prod of Enlightened Compassion
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2006 :  20:48:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
filthy pontificated:
quote:
Oy veh! A Mossy 500! I want one, even though I am a mediocer shotgunner at best. I think it's because they look so ferocious. And they hold all of those lovely shells.

Alas, it will be a while before I can afford such a thing, and even then, I will probably blow the roll on a pistol, ever my firearm of choice. I'm wishfully dreaming about a Clark built, 1911, .45 ACP.

Go with #1 buck. The weight of metal is about the same, but you have double the pellets.

And have a fine Darwin's day!


"Mediocre shotgunner"? Who needs skill with a scattergun? Mine's pimped out to an admittedly ridiculous degree. It already had a shortened barrel, though of still legal length. I replaced the wood furniture with a fold-up plastic stock, and the pump with a forward grip. Then I added one of those bright flashlights to the barrel. Since I had a cheap laser sight that wouldn't work on my Kel-Tec 9 mm, I put that on the barrel, too. Pretty silly, having a laser on a shotgun, but it might add extra intimidation, and was fun to add. I also added a plastic holder that holds five extra 12-gauge cartridges on the folding stock.

I got both that and the Kel-Tec because I was living alone for several years in a rural area of Washington State, where sheriff's response normally required a minimum of twenty minutes, and often longer. People there were pretty much expected to take care of their own defense until help could arrive. There was a high crime rate, especially burglary, with many meth users about. There were also black bears, one of which got into my yard and was chased by my Chihuahua, and by me lighting it up with the shotgun's flashlight while hollering and trying to restrain my dog. (The bear was a huge boar. It got away with no shotgun or Chihuahua-mauling injuries.) I had a concealed carry permit for the Kel-Tec, also, and normally went "packing" when going out.

Now, I'm in CA, in a very peaceful area. My stroke makes it hard for me to work the slide on that auto. It would be almost impossible to obtain a concealed carry permit for a pistol here, anyway.

I agree about the #1 buck, but I found that out after I'd already stocked up on #00. And I don't get a chance to use up the ammo I already have.

I would love to have a .45 ACP. My Dad used to have a Model 1911, WWII vintage. I got the Kel-Tec because it was cheap and had what I felt was sufficient stopping power. In all the times I took it to the range to shoot it, it never misfired.

My favorite firearm, though, is my matchlock musket. Firing a "coalburner" is more fun than any other weapon, IMO. Love the smell of sulfurous clouds of smoke in the morning!

Good luck in your belly-gun competition, filthy. And a fine Darwin's day to you, too, and to all!


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 02/11/2006 21:25:24
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard

USA
3834 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2006 :  00:40:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by R.Wreck

Maybe I'll go to church. With any luck there will be a good sermon.

I can't believe the DI has a message about Darwin Day. We use religion to defend Darwin? That's news to me. Very interesting RW.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2006 :  00:58:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
B zed:
quote:
I can't believe the DI has a message about Darwin Day. We use religion to defend Darwin? That's news to me. Very interesting RW.

Not us skeptics, I'm sure. I think this must be a case of some churches choosing to defend science and education, perhaps to deliberately counter and make up for what fundy churches are doing. Sure beats 'em doing the opposite.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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R.Wreck
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USA
1191 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2006 :  10:45:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by beskeptigal:

quote:
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Originally posted by R.Wreck

Maybe I'll go to church. With any luck there will be a good sermon.

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I can't believe the DI has a message about Darwin Day. We use religion to defend Darwin? That's news to me. Very interesting RW.


I think the stress of pushing ID creationism as non-religious while actually having a religious agenda is getting to them. Why are they so honked-off that some preachers may support evolution? Maybe they don't like real science playing in their sandbox? Hard to tell what's going on inside their (pin)heads.

The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley

The Cattle Prod of Enlightened Compassion
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2006 :  11:33:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
I like it. It's like the effect of the D-Day invasion on the Russsians war effort: A second front. And on this one, their coreligionists are taking them on. Anthing that drives the DI to further distracion is agood thing.

They're having to start to feel a bit isolated now. This, after recent signs that one or more of them at the DI are considering giving up a "scientific" argument against "change over time."




Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 02/12/2006 12:13:33
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2006 :  13:27:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
“This isn't science versus religion, it's science versus science,” added West. “It's a standard part of science to raise evidence critical of an existing scientific theory or paradigm. That's what good science is about—analyzing evidence and asking tough questions. Scientists have a duty to raise critical questions about existing scientific theories.”
Okay.....

You gots emperical evidence that disproves the ToE, then bring it on, chump. We've been waiting to see such for a century and a half, and thus far all there's been from your side of the actually nonexistant question is blather, outright lies, and wishful dreaming.

And as for the hundreds (so many! But out of how many in the world?) of scientists that you claim are in your stable; exactly how many are there, who are they and what are their fields of research? And how many are named 'Steve?'

Belly-gun match: old age and treachery have triumphed yet again! Will those guys shooting the big bore, pocket-sized, automatics ever learn that 5 secnds goes by fast, too fast to waste time recovering from the recoil of factory pistol fuel? I certainly hope not.

I spent my winnings ($30) buying rounds and snacks in celebration of the greater influnce of Darwin, the demise of ID, and my own perfidie de glorius....




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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