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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 02/20/2006 :  04:45:55  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
I am not bothering to give reference because anyone who has not heard of this has been living in a remote, Tibetian monestary and subsisting on yak juice.

I seems that a company from the United Arab Emerites has taken over control of some six maritime ports in the continental US. This company had bought out a British company that had the contract.

My question is: putting aside the security problems that this potentially represents, why the hell can't a domestic company run these ports? Indeed, I must question the fact that any forign organization, the Brits included, have these highly sensitive contracts. Could it be that none of our home-grown companies are qualified, or, more likely, are they too corrupt for the job?

This makes no sense to me -- am I missing something?




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Valiant Dancer
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USA
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Posted - 02/20/2006 :  06:35:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

I am not bothering to give reference because anyone who has not heard of this has been living in a remote, Tibetian monestary and subsisting on yak juice.

I seems that a company from the United Arab Emerites has taken over control of some six maritime ports in the continental US. This company had bought out a British company that had the contract.

My question is: putting aside the security problems that this potentially represents, why the hell can't a domestic company run these ports? Indeed, I must question the fact that any forign organization, the Brits included, have these highly sensitive contracts. Could it be that none of our home-grown companies are qualified, or, more likely, are they too corrupt for the job?

This makes no sense to me -- am I missing something?







Need I remind you of the economic program which rewards US companies for sending jobs overseas? Then there's the whole LLC scam where if a company is sued as an LLC, the courts can only go after the assets the company has on US soil. It is for that reason that most of a LLC's assets are held overseas. Shipping, being a magnet for lawsuits seemingly second only to healthcare, is rife with LLC's.

How does that twist your knickers?

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Dr. Mabuse
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Sweden
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Posted - 02/20/2006 :  07:42:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
I'm having similar worries as Filthy, however my concerns are foreign companies buying up natural recources. German companies are buying up hydro-power generating facilities, and now owns Swedish nuclear power plants.

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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2006 :  08:21:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by filthy

I am not bothering to give reference because anyone who has not heard of this has been living in a remote, Tibetian monestary and subsisting on yak juice.

I seems that a company from the United Arab Emerites has taken over control of some six maritime ports in the continental US. This company had bought out a British company that had the contract.

My question is: putting aside the security problems that this potentially represents, why the hell can't a domestic company run these ports? Indeed, I must question the fact that any forign organization, the Brits included, have these highly sensitive contracts. Could it be that none of our home-grown companies are qualified, or, more likely, are they too corrupt for the job?

This makes no sense to me -- am I missing something?







Need I remind you of the economic program which rewards US companies for sending jobs overseas? Then there's the whole LLC scam where if a company is sued as an LLC, the courts can only go after the assets the company has on US soil. It is for that reason that most of a LLC's assets are held overseas. Shipping, being a magnet for lawsuits seemingly second only to healthcare, is rife with LLC's.

How does that twist your knickers?

Yeh, yeh; I'd almost forgotten about that. Now I'm good and pissed, and it'll take the rest of the week to get the bights amd bends out of my boxers. Treasonous bastards!




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Dude
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USA
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Posted - 02/20/2006 :  11:05:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
quote:
This makes no sense to me -- am I missing something?


filthy, I think you are blocking out the fact that we have a president who invites Saudi royals to his TX ranch, who's father (who, btw, is authorized to recieve the daily national security briefings with the exact same content that the president gets) WORKS as a consultant for some middle eastern countries.

And that is just for starters.


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beskeptigal
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USA
3834 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2006 :  12:17:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
All those things aside, the real issue is our foreign debt and negative trade balance. This started way back when the oil rich countries needed some place to invest the trillions of dollars they were accumulating as we bought their oil. The OPEC countries have been buying up US real estate and other assets for years. For an eyeopener just check out the assets of Libya that were frozen when the Lockerbie bombing occurred.

Of course, the deal's approval smacks of Bush's policies of catering to any rich person that has connections to him or his government. And we all know about his connections to the oil trillionaires.

I don't think outsourcing has anything to do with it. The fact that most large companies are really international and some of them have more assets and power than many nations is definitely a factor.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2006 :  12:53:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
China has operated a huge port facility in California for years. Long Beach, I seem to recall. Everything is running smooth there, and so far not a single person has been blown up by nukes they may have hidden there.

What I worry about is that these trade zones might evolve into "extraterritoriality" like the leading colonial counties had in 19th Century China port cities. Shanghai was one such "enclave," where foreign law was enforced, and Chinese law was excluded.

We'd know if this has happened when signs are put up in parks within the trade zones, reading, "No Dogs or Americans." Learn to read Arabic and Chinese.



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Edited by - HalfMooner on 02/20/2006 12:53:47
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