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Michael Mozina
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Posted - 04/29/2006 :  15:46:47  Show Profile  Visit Michael Mozina's Homepage Send Michael Mozina a Private Message
http://www.wired.com/news/wireservice/0,70769-0.html?tw=wn_index_4

Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2006 :  16:20:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
Absolutely a terrorist!

It's much easier to label someone a terrorist, and lock him up at Guatanamo Base, rather than combatting the root problem.

Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3

"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse

Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
4907 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2006 :  16:40:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
While seeking the truth is admirable, breaking into private computers to do so is not.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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Michael Mozina
SFN Regular

1647 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2006 :  16:41:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Michael Mozina's Homepage Send Michael Mozina a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Absolutely a terrorist!

It's much easier to label someone a terrorist, and lock him up at Guatanamo Base, rather than combatting the root problem.



Ya, like applying a few software patches every so often. :)

I'm just curious what this will do to the UFO field. I'm a bit of a skeptic since I've never seen one personally, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. If he really has such images, I'd love to see them. :)
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Michael Mozina
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Posted - 04/29/2006 :  16:43:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Michael Mozina's Homepage Send Michael Mozina a Private Message
FYI, what he did was against US law, and I'm not defending his actions in any way. I'm simply interested in watching this case unfold to see if he really does have that kind of leverage. :)
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R.Wreck
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USA
1191 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2006 :  17:04:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
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I saw what I'm convinced was some kind of satellite or spacecraft but it was manufactured by no means I have ever seen before -- there were no rivets, no seams, it was like one flawless piece of material.


I guess he doesn't get out much:


The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley

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dv82matt
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Posted - 04/29/2006 :  17:23:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send dv82matt a Private Message
If top security computers were so easy to penetrate the pentagon should be grateful to him for exposing the problem. Very sloppy indeed.
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Michael Mozina
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1647 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2006 :  15:13:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Michael Mozina's Homepage Send Michael Mozina a Private Message
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/4977134.stm

quote:
SK: Is it possible this is an artist's impression?

GM: I don't know... For me, it was more than a coincidence. This woman has said: "This is what happens, in this building, in this space centre". I went into that building, that space centre, and saw exactly that.

SK: Do you have a copy of this? It came down to your machine.

GM: No, the graphical remote viewer works frame by frame. It's a Java application, so there's nothing to save on your hard drive, or at least if it is, only one frame at a time.

SK: So did you get the one frame?

GM: No.

SK: What happened?

GM: Once I was cut off, my picture just disappeared.


Ok, now I'm rather skeptical. He's not sure if the *single* image was an artists impression, he never went back to try to retrieve the image again, and evidently he's never heard of CTRL-ALT-PRINTSCREEN. Somehow I get the feeling that if he actually downloaded something he thought was the real deal, he would have been smart enough to figure out a way to save the image to his computer. This sounds mighty fishy to me. :)
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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26022 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2006 :  18:23:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
I think the guy is lying his ass off. His claim that with a "4bit colour" and "really, really low" resolution image he was able to tell that whatever he saw had no rivets or seams is ludicrous on its face. My guess is that he got caught poking around in government machines, and has concoted this UFO stuff as a way of generating sympathy in the hopes he won't have to face justice in Britain, where several years ago the main UFO group disbanded itself after a drop in UFO reports after the cancorder revolution. Americans, though, will eat this stuff up, and even help the guy postpone his trial for years with bogus demands for non-existant evidence.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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Why not question something for a change?
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Michael Mozina
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Posted - 05/06/2006 :  18:36:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Michael Mozina's Homepage Send Michael Mozina a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

I think the guy is lying his ass off. His claim that with a "4bit colour" and "really, really low" resolution image he was able to tell that whatever he saw had no rivets or seams is ludicrous on its face. My guess is that he got caught poking around in government machines, and has concoted this UFO stuff as a way of generating sympathy in the hopes he won't have to face justice in Britain, where several years ago the main UFO group disbanded itself after a drop in UFO reports after the cancorder revolution. Americans, though, will eat this stuff up, and even help the guy postpone his trial for years with bogus demands for non-existant evidence.



I also really loved his explanation about about how the "single" Java image that he might be able to capture conveniently "disappeared" the moment he was "cut off". It sounds like a cheap publicity ploy to me as well.
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