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beskeptigal
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Posted - 06/10/2006 :  10:26:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
The main reason Jeb would have a shot is the Republicans are very good at last minute ambushes and taking one little issue and distorting it into something "terrible" then pounding the marketing phrase about it over and over into the heads of all voters. They did it once again with Busby in the San Diego race and the Democrats lost again.

If an election can turn on a sentence, this could be the one: “You don't need papers for voting.”
quote:
On Thursday night, Francine Busby, the Democratic candidate for the 50th Congressional District, was speaking before a largely Latino crowd in Escondido when she uttered those words. She said yesterday she simply misspoke....



That and election fraud and shenanigans of course.
Edited by - beskeptigal on 06/10/2006 10:29:09
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Chippewa
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Posted - 06/10/2006 :  11:22:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by beskeptigal

...Republicans are very good at last minute ambushes and taking one little issue and distorting it into something "terrible" then pounding the marketing phrase about it over and over into the heads of all voters.

One of many examples:
I still meet people today (including liberals) who say sarcastically "Al Gore said he invented the internet." He actually did not say that, but his statement could be misconstrued out if context, and that's what Rove's staff did. Actually Gore won an award for his contributions to the development of the internet, and the two guys who had a direct effect on the development of the internet stated:

"...as the two people who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time." - Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf, Internet pioneers

Diversity, independence, innovation and imagination are progressive concepts ultimately alien to the conservative mind.

"TAX AND SPEND" IS GOOD! (TAX: Wealthy corporations who won't go poor even after taxes. SPEND: On public works programs, education, the environment, improvements.)
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 06/10/2006 :  16:49:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Chippewa

quote:
Originally posted by beskeptigal

...Republicans are very good at last minute ambushes and taking one little issue and distorting it into something "terrible" then pounding the marketing phrase about it over and over into the heads of all voters.

One of many examples:
I still meet people today (including liberals) who say sarcastically "Al Gore said he invented the internet." He actually did not say that, but his statement could be misconstrued out if context, and that's what Rove's staff did. Actually Gore won an award for his contributions to the development of the internet, and the two guys who had a direct effect on the development of the internet stated:

"...as the two people who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time." - Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf, Internet pioneers


I, too, had believed that bizarre "quote" attributed to Gore, even as I supported him. Do you, Chip, or anyone else, have the original source?

To be fair, there is a false quote from the other side attributed to Bush, something like, "The Constitution's just a piece of paper." I've repeatedly seen this one quoted even in these fora, but my own Google research a few months ago showed it to originate from one liberal blogger, who himself stated that two (unnamed) Senators told him Bush had said that. Unnamed sources are suspicious at best. I personally believe Bush thinks that way, but I also think the quote itself is a fabrication by the blogger.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 06/10/2006 17:01:28
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 06/10/2006 :  19:16:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
Bush's quote sound's credible to me.

Salon.com on the Gore statement.



Edited by - beskeptigal on 06/10/2006 19:20:19
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