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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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 Posted - 05/20/2006 : 05:55:07 [Permalink]
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verlch verily vomited: quote:
Where is your testable evidence to support your theories.
Hey, you picked up on that phrase here, I'll bet. Too bad you and your Cretinist cohorts don't have a clue what it means, anymore than you know the difference between a period and a question mark.quote:
Human beings are complex, living creatures. Smart no less, I would expect a super smart, being to have made us, and by golly, the by faith evidence I see in the bible.
"Faith evidence"???  You don't have the slightest idea of what an "oxymoron" is, do you, verlch? That's as stupid a statement as I've ever heard, especially right after demanding my evidence.
Okay, I'll play by your rules: My evidence is my deep and abiding faith in a large, hairy, powerful Gnome named Sammy, who told me what to write. When I met Sammy, he was just back from beating up your punk-ass God. Where's your evidence I'm lying?
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 05/20/2006 : 05:58:16 [Permalink]
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| Hey HalfMooner, verlch has this BOOK that tells him what to think. You better produce a book real quick too, because if it isn't written down by bronze age mystics thousands of years ago, it isn't REAL faith evidence. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2006 : 06:11:07 [Permalink]
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pleco added:quote:
Hey HalfMooner, verlch has this BOOK that tells him what to think. You better produce a book real quick too, because if it isn't written down by bronze age mystics thousands of years ago, it isn't REAL faith evidence.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention: Sammy beat up Yahweh by bitch-slapping Him with Sammy's Holy Book of Truth and Bludgeoning. He gave me a copy, but on the condition that only I could read or interpret it.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13477 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2006 : 08:21:49 [Permalink]
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quote:
Velch:
All I see are fully formed fossils, drawings, and fossils you think, may be missing links that "evolved" too quickly to be seen by the naked eye in the fossil record.
So, what exactly would an un-fully formed fossil look like? I mean, we have hominid fossils that display traits that are both primitive and modern. Afarensis would be a great example of that. She was fully bipedal and had a hip arrangement much like modern humans. She also has a dental morphology that is tending toward the beginnings of modern and yet she had the cranial capacity of a chimp, and so on. She is clearly transitional. Again, what should she look like if she was un-fully formed?
Edited to add:
I'll help you out Verlch. There is no such thing as an un-fully formed animal. Every transitional is a fully formed and functioning species taking advantage of whatever niche it happens to fill. The only people looking for an un-fully formed animal, which by definition cannot exist, are creationists. It's something more than a strawman. It's a lie foisted on the faithful by those more interested in proselytizing than they are in actually telling the truth… Liars for Christ.
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 05/20/2006 : 20:22:13 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by verlch
All I see are fully formed fossils, drawings, and fossils you think, may be missing links that "evolved" too quickly to be seen by the naked eye in the fossil record.
Let's take a closer look at what verlch is really arguing here:
Premise 1: If evolution was true then we would expect to find fossilised creatures that are 0-100% "formed".
Premise 2: All fossils found are fully formed.
Conclusion: Evolution is false.
Let's for fun go along with verlch and assume that premise 1 is true (bwahahaha) and examine the evidence for premise 2. In many instances, only fragments of fossils are found. These fossil fragments could in fact be partly formed creatures. If this was true, then what verlch is really arguing is this:
Premise 1: If evolution was true then we would expect to find fossilised creatures that are 0-100% "formed".
Premise 2: Lots of fossils found are partly formed.
Conclusion: Evolution is true.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 05/20/2006 : 20:47:31 [Permalink]
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quote:
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention: Sammy beat up Yahweh by bitch-slapping Him with Sammy's Holy Book of Truth and Bludgeoning. He gave me a copy, but on the condition that only I could read or interpret it.
So.... that makes you a mormon!
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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Posted - 05/20/2006 : 23:58:26 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dude
So.... that makes you a mormon!
At first, I missed the second m.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 05/21/2006 : 04:31:05 [Permalink]
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Dude and Starman conspired to say: quote:
quote:Originally posted by Dude
So.... that makes you a mormon!
At first, I missed the second m
Yup, a little of both, actually. I've got he magical specs needed to read Sammy's scripture, and I'm dumb enough to believe it literally.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 05/21/2006 : 04:42:34 [Permalink]
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Hawks observed: quote:
Let's for fun go along with verlch and assume that premise 1 is true (bwahahaha) and examine the evidence for premise 2. In many instances, only fragments of fossils are found. These fossil fragments could in fact be partly formed creatures. If this was true, then what verlch is really arguing is this:
Premise 1: If evolution was true then we would expect to find fossilised creatures that are 0-100% "formed".
Premise 2: Lots of fossils found are partly formed.
Conclusion: Evolution is true.
Yes, and so in human evolution research, paleontologists should be looking for these partially-formed fossils: Independent, bipedal leg-and-hip assemblies; Disembodied, big-brained crania; Free-ranging opposable thumbs; Hairless, freelance torsos. We must presume that at some point, these all came together in an unspeakable orgy, and hybridized into humans.
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Ghost_Skeptic
SFN Regular
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Posted - 05/25/2006 : 00:26:05 [Permalink]
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Here is an Interview (MP3) with Dr. David Reich the senior author of the study.
He says that similarities in the X chromosome are evidence of hybridization. |
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"Religion is the natural home of the psychopath" - Pat Condell
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 06/02/2006 : 23:18:25 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Kil
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Velch:
All I see are fully formed fossils, drawings, and fossils you think, may be missing links that "evolved" too quickly to be seen by the naked eye in the fossil record.
So, what exactly would an un-fully formed fossil look like? I mean, we have hominid fossils that display traits that are both primitive and modern. Afarensis would be a great example of that. She was fully bipedal and had a hip arrangement much like modern humans. She also has a dental morphology that is tending toward the beginnings of modern and yet she had the cranial capacity of a chimp, and so on. She is clearly transitional. Again, what should she look like if she was un-fully formed?
Edited to add:
I'll help you out Verlch. There is no such thing as an un-fully formed animal. Every transitional is a fully formed and functioning species taking advantage of whatever niche it happens to fill. The only people looking for an un-fully formed animal, which by definition cannot exist, are creationists. It's something more than a strawman. It's a lie foisted on the faithful by those more interested in proselytizing than they are in actually telling the truth… Liars for Christ.
Where are these jaw bones of apes and humans at anyway?
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 06/02/2006 : 23:23:04 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Kil
quote:
Velch:
All I see are fully formed fossils, drawings, and fossils you think, may be missing links that "evolved" too quickly to be seen by the naked eye in the fossil record.
So, what exactly would an un-fully formed fossil look like? I mean, we have hominid fossils that display traits that are both primitive and modern. Afarensis would be a great example of that. She was fully bipedal and had a hip arrangement much like modern humans. She also has a dental morphology that is tending toward the beginnings of modern and yet she had the cranial capacity of a chimp, and so on. She is clearly transitional. Again, what should she look like if she was un-fully formed?
Edited to add:
I'll help you out Verlch. There is no such thing as an un-fully formed animal. Every transitional is a fully formed and functioning species taking advantage of whatever niche it happens to fill. The only people looking for an un-fully formed animal, which by definition cannot exist, are creationists. It's something more than a strawman. It's a lie foisted on the faithful by those more interested in proselytizing than they are in actually telling the truth… Liars for Christ.
Really, only fully formed animals can exist? Just transforming into another creature so rapidly that the fossil record doesn't record it? Nor can we observe it, purely speculation in the stratosphere.
More like dreams. If it was fine in its present form, than what purpose is it to adapt, and is this how evolutionists are going to become gods, by this process? |
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