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Kil
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USA
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Posted - 06/05/2006 :  17:59:15  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
Long before there was TiVo, there was this:

Radio News, September, 1930, pages 215, 285:

I don't think it really caught on though…




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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 06/05/2006 :  18:21:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Neat gizmo! That must have been the first home entertainment remote control.


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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
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Posted - 06/05/2006 :  19:33:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
When I was about eight, I helped my dad install a lamp-cord lightswitch on a 20-foot length of electrical cord which he then spliced into the speaker circuit of my grandparents' living-room TV set. He effectively and cheaply gave my grandparents a remote (though corded) mute button. It was used extensively to silence commercials during many episodes of M*A*S*H.

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Chippewa
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USA
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Posted - 06/06/2006 :  02:12:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

When I was about eight, I helped my dad install a lamp-cord lightswitch on a 20-foot length of electrical cord which he then spliced into the speaker circuit ... was used extensively to silence commercials



Wow! My dad did the same thing, except it was back in the 60s when such shows as Dick Van Dyke and Twilight Zone were first on! He had a cord running from under the (black & white) TV ending in a switch. We'd click off commercials.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/06/2006 :  05:23:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
I guess it just wasn't until the 70s that my grandparent started complaining about having to listen to ads.

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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 06/06/2006 :  07:42:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Anybody remember the first remote controls, back in the late fifties, early sixties, for high-end console TVs? They had, I think, ON/OFF, and channel cycling functions (maybe, but I think not, volume control, too). Two or three large buttons on 'em. And they communicated with the TV via an audible "plunking" tone. I think the controllers themselves were purely mechanical.


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GeeMack
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USA
1093 Posts

Posted - 06/06/2006 :  10:00:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send GeeMack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HalfMooner...

Anybody remember the first remote controls, back in the late fifties, early sixties, for high-end console TVs? They had, I think, ON/OFF, and channel cycling functions (maybe, but I think not, volume control, too). Two or three large buttons on 'em. And they communicated with the TV via an audible "plunking" tone. I think the controllers themselves were purely mechanical.
My grandfather was one of those people who was always "first kid on the block". I'm sure he had a television before anyone in his neighborhood. He certainly had a color TV before anyone else. And yes, I remember that remote control from the 1960s. His television was a Zenith. The remote would turn the TV on or off, and cycle through the channels. I think it also turned the volume up or down in a very few rough stages.

I do recall when changing channels the remote obviously activated a small motor which was attached to the channel selector dial in the TV. Click the remote and hear an audible small motor hum as the channel changer rotates up one notch. Nothing like the solid state, infra-red, modern electronic things we use today.

The remote was probably three inches wide, an inch and a half thick, and over four inches long, huge and heavy by today's standards. Looking at it from the front there was a small metal screen, and behind that there were four (I believe) sort of tube looking things inside. It reminded me of a pitch pipe, the type used when tuning a violin. When a button was pushed, it seemed to trigger a spring of some sort, causing one of those metal tubes to be whacked in such a way that it generated a certain audio frequency signal. It reminded me of a sophisticated version of one of those little cricket clicker noise makers. Cool stuff for a curious eight year old kid to ponder.

My father wasn't as "state of the art" as my grandfather. He connected the cutoff switch to the television speaker, strung that fifteen feet of wire across the floor, and used that to mute the TV during the commercials. After having seen my grandfather's remote, I recall thinking how simple and crude that speaker switch was.
Edited by - GeeMack on 06/06/2006 14:48:48
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Stargirl
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USA
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Posted - 06/06/2006 :  14:03:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Stargirl a Private Message
Growing up in the fifties and sixties I remember not being allowed to play jacks when our parents were watching TV. That was because sometimes when we threw the jacks on the floor it would cause the TV to change channels or turn off the set. Dropping a set of keys on a hard surface would do the same thing.

Being children there were naturally times we couldn't resist doing it on purpose.

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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 06/06/2006 :  18:06:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
I remember there was a time when you had one remote for your tv and one for your vcr, instead of the all-in-one remotes they have now. Does that count?

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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 06/06/2006 :  18:22:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky

I remember there was a time when you had one remote for your tv and one for your vcr, instead of the all-in-one remotes they have now. Does that count?

They do? Man, I have to get one of those....

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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 06/06/2006 :  18:51:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Ads? What are these things you speak of?

I almost never watch live TV.... I make extensive use of the DVR so kindly provided by my local cable company for an extra $5/month.

The people who thought it would be a good idea to raise the broadcast volume of commercials are entirely to blame for such devices.


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filthy
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Posted - 06/07/2006 :  02:33:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Not being particularly interested in the toob, my 'home entertainmrnt center' has always been a bit, well, primitive. I never had a remote until the early '80s. That one was on my first VCR, not a VHS, but the other one (mistake on my part -- what can I say; they were selling it cheap). That remote was on a wire some 15 feet or so long. I was, of course, delighted with this technology until I found that no one was making very many tapes to play in it. Within months, the machine crapped out and on the advice of someone who knew something about it, I bought a VHS.

The mute button is truly a wonderful feature.




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moakley
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USA
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Posted - 06/07/2006 :  04:42:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

The people who thought it would be a good idea to raise the broadcast volume of commercials are entirely to blame for such devices.

My wife complains about this all the time, while I hardly notice it.

Note to self: Must get hearing check.

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