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Orwellingly Yurz
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Posted - 07/10/2006 :  20:32:14  Show Profile Send Orwellingly Yurz a Private Message
Just THIS In...

White House Blasts Clinton N.Korea Policy 10:35 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The White House belittled former President Clinton's policy of direct engagement with North Korea on Monday, saying efforts to shower North Korean leader Kim Jong Il ''with flowers and chocolates'' failed.

Orwellingly Yurz sez:

Hmmmm, looks like G. War Bush and his puppeteers are stroking the masses with another weapon of mass distraction.

This is to confuse us about the infamous line that our troops would be greeted with "flowers and chocolates" as they liberated the Iraqis who are now being occupied by our troops; that is when some Iraqis aren't being raped and subsquently murdered by soldiers obviously being driven mad by G. War Bush's "spreading of democracy."

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marfknox
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Posted - 07/10/2006 :  22:18:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message
Chocolate and flowers? Sheesh.

Kim Jung Il a truly scary SOB, but what is the USA supposed to do? Certainly the USA could take out the regime, but not without hundreds of thousands or even millions of casualties in Japan and South Korea. The US soldiers stationed on the DMZ are told they are a speed bump if anything serious were to go down, and Seoul is a 20 minute drive from there. North Korea's been beefing up its military for a long time, and they know it is their only card. They'll posture and make a big stink, but if NK actually takes any aggressive military action, they know they're toast.

I think Jung Il is just making noise now to get enough attention that it seems NK is under threat - then he reduces the chances of internal collapse or overthrow by having a foreign enemy to focus on. But there is no friggin' way NK is going to nuke the US or any other country. They aren't stupid or that crazy - such an action unprovoked would be pure suicide.

I don't know how much longer this stalemate can go on between NK and its neighbors/USA. Japan has been debating whether it would be unConstitutional for them to develop the military to launch a strike on NK's missle launch sites. (Unless they hit them all at once in a purely surprise attack, the response from NK would be devastating. What are the Japanese thinking!?) There's no damn easy solution and so it's already gone on for half a century. But I'd rather see it go on for another 50 years than watch NK blow the crap out of Seoul because the cowboy-President in Washington decides to be a tough guy.


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Dude
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Posted - 07/10/2006 :  22:35:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.... but wasn't it on W's watch that N-Korea broke the seals on their plutonium and made a bomb?

That shit didn't happen when Clinton was president.


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marfknox
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Posted - 07/10/2006 :  23:04:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message
Dude, that's totally correct. Excellent point.

From a 2002 article in the Korea Herald (I can't link to it because it is in hard copy in my scrap book):
quote:
The terrorist attacks on Wasington and New York one year ago roused concerns in South Korea that the hard-won peace process on the Korean Puninsula might go up in smoke.

Tension gripped the peninsula, one of the last remaining Cold War frontiers, because of worries that North Korea, which still is on a U.S. list of states sponsoring terrorism, might be the next target in the U.S.-led war against terrorism.

But one year later, the security situation on the peninsula is showing signs of improvement as inter-Korean realations have been put back on track and the North and Japan are moving to normalize relations.
The article goes on to report about a "host of projects" between the two Koreas, such as a cross-border railway and more family reunions.

Then the U.S. invaded Iraq and started ignoring its diplomatic relations and promises to North Korea. From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea_nuclear_weapons_program

quote:
North Korea withdrew from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty in 2003 after not recieving the promised light water reactors which were going to be delivered by the United States of America in exchange for North Korea not developing their own powerplants.
That's about when some of our South Korean allies (mostly college students) started burning American flags.

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Edited by - marfknox on 07/10/2006 23:06:37
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