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Orwellingly Yurz
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Posted - 08/06/2006 :  15:21:07  Show Profile Send Orwellingly Yurz a Private Message
Just THIS In....


From THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: August 6, 2006
Filed at 5:21 p.m. ET

Do you believe in Iraqi ''WMD''? Did Saddam Hussein's government have weapons of mass destruction in 2003?

Half of America apparently still thinks so, a new poll finds, and experts see a raft of reasons why: a drumbeat of voices from talk radio to die-hard bloggers to the Oval Office, a surprise headline here or there, a rallying around a partisan flag, and a growing need for people, in their own minds, to justify the war in Iraq.

People tend to become ''independent of reality'' in these circumstances, says opinion analyst Steven Kull.

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YO: Oooooooo! Yeeesss! And the ring "leader" of this reality- eschewing group would be: SURreal George!

In G. War's Fuzzy Math Book, 2 + 2 = 5.

Happy Atomic Bomb Day, everybody. OY!

"The modern conservative...is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy. That is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith

If dogs run free
Then what must be,
Must be...
And that is all
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--me

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"Experience is the name so many people give to their mistakes."
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Edited by - Orwellingly Yurz on 08/06/2006 15:22:18

Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
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Posted - 08/06/2006 :  17:53:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
I've seen this floating around for a little bit, OY. It's hard to imagine how the country can function well while fully 50% believe wrongly about something so fundamental to today's geopolitical situation. On the other hand, it's tragically easy to see how it is that this country is functioning as it is-- it's precisely because fully 50% believe wrongly about something so fundamental to today's geopolitical situation! Kudos to the RNC and its various media outlets for duping so many Americans!
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 08/06/2006 :  20:32:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
And how will this effect the outcome of the next two elections ('06 and '08)? If 50% of Americans think Iraq had WMD's, then probably about the same amount think the war was justified. So around 50% of America are on the Republican's side of an issue which will probably still be the largest political issue come 2008.

Now it's not as bad as that. There are many who think that while the war was justified, it's time to pack it up and go home. Or rather, hopefully they will be thinking that. And then again, this is only one issue.

So while I think that the Democrats have a pretty damn good chance in 2006 and 2008, it might not be as good as some of us would hope.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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Ghost_Skeptic
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Canada
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Posted - 08/06/2006 :  23:56:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Ghost_Skeptic a Private Message
Saddam Husseins behaviour prior to the invasion (playing cat and mouse with the weapons inspectors etc.) was so much like that of someone with something to hide that I wonder if he really thought he had weapons of mass destruction - even though subsequent evidence has indicated they did not exist. Perhaps the people working on these projects took the money and told him they were making progress.

Believing the WMDs were there is no greater disconnect from reality than believing the world is 6000 years old. I will bet dollars to doughnuts that there is a large overlap between the two.

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. / You can send a kid to college but you can't make him think." - B.B. King

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