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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 08/07/2006 :  11:54:30  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14230368/

The new figures place the Hubble constant in the low 70's and increase the size of the universe to 180 billion LY and the age of the universe to 15.8 billion years.
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Posted - 08/07/2006 :  13:47:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
O, swear not by Hubble, the in-Constant speed,
That yearly changes in her measure'd haste,
Lest that thy Cosmos' size prove likewise variable.

(With apologies to William Shakespeare.)
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Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 08/07/2006 13:47:49
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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 08/07/2006 :  14:56:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14230368/

The new figures place the Hubble constant in the low 70's and increase the size of the universe to 180 billion LY and the age of the universe to 15.8 billion years.
Hmmm. I wonder if adjusting the constant will swing things in favor of interpreting red shift as reflecting a Big Slam instead of a Big Bang?
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Michael Mozina
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Posted - 08/07/2006 :  15:40:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Michael Mozina's Homepage Send Michael Mozina a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14230368/

The new figures place the Hubble constant in the low 70's and increase the size of the universe to 180 billion LY and the age of the universe to 15.8 billion years.
Hmmm. I wonder if adjusting the constant will swing things in favor of interpreting red shift as reflecting a Big Slam instead of a Big Bang?


Hey, I saw that. :)

My answer is of course: "Yes." :)

Of course I never even tried to offer or defend a static universe model of the universe, even though there is growing evidence to support the existence of intrinsically redshifted objects in terms of "MECO"'s, which are allowed for in GR.

http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn9620-mysterious-quasar-casts-doubt-on-black-holes.html
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0505518

These is also evidence to suggest that MECOs could be composed of very massive nuetron stars:

http://xxx.lanl.gov/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0511/0511379.pdf
http://xxx.lanl.gov/ftp/nucl-th/papers/0511/0511051.pdf
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Chippewa
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Posted - 08/07/2006 :  16:13:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

...The new figures place the Hubble constant in the low 70's and increase the size of the universe to 180 billion LY and the age of the universe to 15.8 billion years.


This news places me more "at one" with the Cosmos. My car was made in the early 70's and I too have increased in size since my 50th year.

(But seriously, a Hubble constant revision is interesting news.)
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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 08/07/2006 :  16:31:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Mozina
Hey, I saw that. :)

My answer is of course: "Yes." :)

Of course I never even tried to offer or defend a static universe model of the universe, even though there is growing evidence to support the existence of intrinsically redshifted objects in terms of "MECO"'s, which are allowed for in GR.

http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn9620-mysterious-quasar-casts-doubt-on-black-holes.html
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0505518

These is also evidence to suggest that MECOs could be composed of very massive nuetron stars:

http://xxx.lanl.gov/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0511/0511379.pdf
http://xxx.lanl.gov/ftp/nucl-th/papers/0511/0511051.pdf


Glad to see you're still around, Michael. One of these days I plan to resume the debate. For now I'll file this away as I keep my attention focused on looming school deadlines. But soon...
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