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Randy
SFN Regular

USA
1990 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2006 :  19:23:13  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=5&ObjectID=10396493

"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson

McQ
Skeptic Friend

USA
258 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2006 :  19:36:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send McQ a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Randy

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=5&ObjectID=10396493



There goes the neighborhood.

Elvis didn't do no drugs!
--Penn Gillette
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13477 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2006 :  19:50:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
Can't they be given better names? Since they are “Plutons” why not call them Huey, Dewey and Louie?

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

Genetic Literacy Project
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2006 :  20:14:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kil

Can't they be given better names? Since they are “Plutons” why not call them Huey, Dewey and Louie?

Au contraire, Messieur! Those are the names of Donald Duck's nephews.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13477 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2006 :  20:21:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HalfMooner

quote:
Originally posted by Kil

Can't they be given better names? Since they are “Plutons” why not call them Huey, Dewey and Louie?

Au contraire, Messieur! Those are the names of Donald Duck's nephews.



I know, but compared to the other planets, these are pretty Mickey Mouse, don't you think?

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

Genetic Literacy Project
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard

USA
4574 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2006 :  20:32:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
Come on, guys, this is serious. Stop acting Goofy.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 08/15/2006 20:33:24
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2006 :  20:33:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
I found this wonderful op-ed in today's NY Times and thought it was a good take. The author, a professor at Cal Tech, argues
quote:
Think of it this way. The term “planet” is similar to “continent.” The word helps us organize our world, but the division between continents and subcontinents is thoroughly arbitrary. Yet no union of geologists has tried to vote on a definition of “continent,” and no one is concerned that letting culture determine the difference between Australia, the smallest continent, and Greenland, the largest island, somehow erodes science.
Indeed. So let's just keep Pluto as a planet, and add 2003 UB313 as another-- giving us a nice round number-- and leave it at that. For now.

Just think:

My Very Excellent Mother Just Sent Us Nine Pies [fill in blank]

"blank" could be "Quickly" or "Yesterday" or "Asshole" or "Right?" or any other new term to fit the mnemonic device. Good times!

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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2006 :  20:35:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
Oh yeah-- should we start a betting pool? Whoever guesses the correct outcome of the result gets a shirt autographed by the SFN staff? Or something?
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2006 :  00:24:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kil

quote:
Originally posted by HalfMooner

quote:
Originally posted by Kil

Can't they be given better names? Since they are “Plutons” why not call them Huey, Dewey and Louie?

Au contraire, Messieur! Those are the names of Donald Duck's nephews.



I know, but compared to the other planets, these are pretty Mickey Mouse, don't you think?

Not to anyone who buys acreage there!


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard

3192 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2006 :  05:32:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
This is silly but nessisary...

The only reason they called them plutons is because of the 'we love Pluto' backlash. Which was huge.

Looks like Pluto gets to be the first double planet system classified as having the center of gravity outside of either object.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Michael Mozina
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1647 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2006 :  09:08:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Michael Mozina's Homepage Send Michael Mozina a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

This is silly but nessisary...

The only reason they called them plutons is because of the 'we love Pluto' backlash. Which was huge.

Looks like Pluto gets to be the first double planet system classified as having the center of gravity outside of either object.



Where's the "we love the name 'Xena'" backlash? :)
Edited by - Michael Mozina on 08/16/2006 09:09:14
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie

USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2006 :  10:03:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

I found this wonderful op-ed in today's NY Times and thought it was a good take. The author, a professor at Cal Tech, argues
quote:
Think of it this way. The term “planet” is similar to “continent.” The word helps us organize our world, but the division between continents and subcontinents is thoroughly arbitrary. Yet no union of geologists has tried to vote on a definition of “continent,” and no one is concerned that letting culture determine the difference between Australia, the smallest continent, and Greenland, the largest island, somehow erodes science.
Indeed. So let's just keep Pluto as a planet, and add 2003 UB313 as another-- giving us a nice round number-- and leave it at that. For now.

Just think:

My Very Excellent Mother Just Sent Us Nine Pies [fill in blank]

"blank" could be "Quickly" or "Yesterday" or "Asshole" or "Right?" or any other new term to fit the mnemonic device. Good times!





Naw, lets add Ceres instead. It's closer. And Rush made a song about it or something.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

Brother Cutlass of Reasoned Discussion
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pleco
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USA
2998 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2006 :  10:42:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
I can see it now ---

Year 2050: "back in my day, there was only nine planets in our solar system AND WE LIKED IT!"

by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart.
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2006 :  10:53:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Mozina

quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

This is silly but nessisary...

The only reason they called them plutons is because of the 'we love Pluto' backlash. Which was huge.

Looks like Pluto gets to be the first double planet system classified as having the center of gravity outside of either object.



Where's the "we love the name 'Xena'" backlash? :)

I hate all the non-Roman names. I know it's very western and thus excluding blah blah, but it ruins the homogeneous nature of the thing if we start tossing around non-Roman mythology.
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard

3192 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2006 :  05:34:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Would you prefer planet Jesus? Thats nice and Roman for ya.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2006 :  06:57:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
If Pluto/Charon has the centre of gravity outside the planetary body, shouldn't we rename it Janus?

Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3

"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse

Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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