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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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 Posted - 09/22/2006 : 09:57:31 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by pleco
One wonders how many missing links have to found before you have to admit that maybe (just maybe) we did evolve from ancestral primates.
All of them, of course. If there's anything missing, then evolution hasn't been proven.
Of course, the creationists have no need to provide such a "pathetic level of detail" in order for their ideas to be "correct." |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 09/22/2006 : 10:34:27 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
quote:
Originally posted by pleco
One wonders how many missing links have to found before you have to admit that maybe (just maybe) we did evolve from ancestral primates.
All of them, of course. If there's anything missing, then evolution hasn't been proven.
Of course, the creationists have no need to provide such a "pathetic level of detail" in order for their ideas to be "correct."
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Dave W.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/22/2006 : 11:24:32 [Permalink]
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Annnnd, here we go....
From what used to be AiG Australia before Ken Ham screwed them over: quote:
The ‘Lucy Child'
More good news for creationists
by Carl Wieland
22 September 2006
A young individual of the same species as the famous ‘Lucy' has just been unveiled.1 Found in Dikika, Ethiopia, this specimen is remarkably well preserved. It is of a young female, probably about three years old. The ‘age' is supposed to be 3.3 million years. It has taken five years so far to carefully remove much of the skeleton from the sandstone. The job is not complete; there may be years more work to confirm exactly what the foot bones looked like, for instance.
Why it's important
There was much fuss when ‘Lucy' (later named Australopithecus afarensis) was discovered. Here at last, evolutionists seemed to have a wonderful ‘ancestor candidate'—one which supposedly walked upright, and had a near-perfect mix of ape and human characteristics.
However, as inevitably happens, things started to look different as time went on and as anatomists carefully studied the fossil bones of Lucy and other specimens of her genus, Australopithecus [cf. the same thing with alleged whale intermediate Pakicetus]. Several researchers using objective computer techniques (like evolutionist Dr Charles Oxnard) pointed out that the features as a whole were not intermediate at all between apes and humans. They also pointed out that their method of locomotion was not upright in the human manner, either. Furthermore, the fingers and toes of other specimen's of Lucy's kind seemed to be long and curved, like apes that swing in the trees. Their arms were long, like those of tree-climbers. [For more details, see the Australopithecus afarensis section of the overview Fossil evidence for alleged apemen—Part 2: non-Homo hominids from Journal of Creation]
It's more of a weasling than a ranting. Dr. Wieland, an MD, is putting forth the same nonsense he has been spewing endlessly about Lucy. It's gratifying to see him holding true to form.
Oh, and after reading the screed, don't forget to buy the books. 
I really want to see what that foot looks like! Do you think that it might make the doctor choke out the word: "Transitional?" I don't, even if it turns out to have fossilized paint on the toenails.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 09/22/2006 : 17:50:35 [Permalink]
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An analogy to hominid (and other) evolutionary studies has occurred to me:
Imagine future archaeologists and scholars finding the remains of a bombed-out movie film archive. The ruins had been hit by some kind of shredding ordinance, perhaps using wire fragments as shrapnel. All is destroyed, except for many short lengths, usually only a frame or two each, of film.
The archaeologists sift through the ruins, collecting the film scraps. They have developed a "Theory of Continuity," which explains the film fragments as parts of larger works which were meant to be displayed in chronological order as moving pictures. The archaeologists are carefully trying to piece together the hypothetical moving pictures. The work is arduous, divisive, and filled with arguments about proper order. There are heated disputes as to whether individual frames are even from the same movie.
But, using chemical analysis of the film pieces, and careful comparison of the actors, locations, props and subject matter, one monochrome film is beginning to be put together. It shows a dark-haired, cynical man, apparently the proprietor of a drinking establishment in an exotic locale. He is seen with a strikingly beautiful blond woman (they are also glimpsed together in another location). Some frames have been rejected from inclusion in the reconstruction of the movie, such as one showing a glass ball containing water and simulated snow falling from the hand of a dying man.
One day, a High Priestess of the future archaeologists' culture shows up at a workshop near the digs and declares: "The Book of Law of the Goddess (sing Her praises) tells us that the Ancients all lived in one timeless moment, six thousand years ago. Time had not yet begun to flow. Thus, these 'sequences' you are constructing are false and heretical. In the name of the Sisterhood Cultural Council, I am shutting down this operation at once.
"Look at this mess!" She gestures at a long table on which are laid out lines of ordered film frames. "These are nothing but still frames! They show no movement. There are more Missing Frames than there are frames you have found! And just look at this segment!" the Priestess exclaims, holding up a section of film containing ten frames, "This is the segment you claim is the best evidence you've uncovered, but it proves nothing! Nothing! If this proves your "Continuity Theory," then why is it just a series of motionless images? "
"Where are the Missing Frames?"
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