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Dude
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Posted - 09/25/2006 :  17:02:28  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Seriously, we should all start attending sunday services at evangelical churches.

In the runup to the midterm elections especially.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11542858/

And when they start talking politics and telling people who to vote for (you know they all tell you who to vote for) then we turn them in to the IRS.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth

Ricky
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Posted - 09/25/2006 :  21:44:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
God bless the IRS

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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filthy
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Posted - 09/26/2006 :  03:23:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
It's all very complicated, isn't it?

But fear not for I have a simple solution: tax the churches like anybody else, let them politic as they wish, and then Falwell and the rest of those sanctimonous grifters can be busted for evasion.

Neat, huh?




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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Starman
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Sweden
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Posted - 09/26/2006 :  03:49:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

It's all very complicated, isn't it?

But fear not for I have a simple solution: tax the churches like anybody else, let them politic as they wish, and then Falwell and the rest of those sanctimonous grifters can be busted for evasion.
Abolish "religious freedom"!

With freedom of speech, the right to assemble and freedom of association there is no need to have a "freedom of religion" specified. Nobody has ever needed "ideological freedom", "spiritual freedom" or "speculative freedom".

Freedom of religion only gives some of the religious the freedom to lie to, steal from, hurt and oppress others.

"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
-- Terry Jones
Edited by - Starman on 09/26/2006 03:51:52
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/26/2006 :  05:35:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Starman

quote:
Originally posted by filthy

It's all very complicated, isn't it?

But fear not for I have a simple solution: tax the churches like anybody else, let them politic as they wish, and then Falwell and the rest of those sanctimonous grifters can be busted for evasion.
Abolish "religious freedom"!

With freedom of speech, the right to assemble and freedom of association there is no need to have a "freedom of religion" specified. Nobody has ever needed "ideological freedom", "spiritual freedom" or "speculative freedom".

Freedom of religion only gives some of the religious the freedom to lie to, steal from, hurt and oppress others.




Perhaps I'm missing something. How does taxing impact religious freedom? The founders set up freedom of religion to protect unfetered worship of whatever diety the person chose. That none of these religious could be elevated or suppressed by law. Giving them a tax break was elevating them. Time to pull the funding plug. If they can prove that they are still providing charitable works and qualify for a 501(c)(3) exemption, then they can also abide by the restrictions on corporate speech that other non-profits have.


Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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