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BigPapaSmurf
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Sorry Antigone, but as you are new you may not be aware of the fact that Verlch is incapable of absobing well thought out interpertations of data as well as anything which contradicts his views of the Universe.
Last we heard from him the Evolutionist Freemason Illuminatus were trying to force their woman friendly ideals on the poor Christians, via worldwide conspiracies that you are involved in, with or without your knowledge. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Antigone
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Posted - 09/29/2006 : 12:18:56 [Permalink]
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Thanks for the heads up!
I suspected I wouldn't get a well thought out debate from him just by reading the subject title of the post ... using ONE source to PROVE something true causes alarm bells and red lights to go off! |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 09/29/2006 : 15:04:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Sorry Antigone, but as you are new you may not be aware of the fact that Verlch is incapable of absobing well thought out interpertations of data as well as anything which contradicts his views of the Universe.
Last we heard from him the Evolutionist Freemason Illuminatus were trying to force their woman friendly ideals on the poor Christians, via worldwide conspiracies that you are involved in, with or without your knowledge.
That's actually a very accurate characterization, Antigone. In some regards, it minimizes the kind of stuff that verlch spews, but one cannot criticise BigPapaSmurf's summary too much for being less than exhaustive.
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the_ignored
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Posted - 09/29/2006 : 16:15:27 [Permalink]
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Verlch
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There are an estimated 75,000 written stories about a world wide flood, 4 of which are major civilizations!
Problem is, the Egyptian and Chinese record go right on through the alleged flood times, with no hint of there having been a world wide flood. You'd think they'd catch something like that.
For more evidence, you may want to check out a site by a fellow christian, Glen Morton. Click on "article" for whatever article you want to read from that page.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Chippewa
SFN Regular
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Posted - 09/29/2006 : 16:19:10 [Permalink]
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Folks, Verlch might be on to something. A group of dignitaries recently gazed upon a giant bone that appeared at the National Science Foundation's Paradigm Shift Convention in Chicago!
Another giant bone was found with a cryptic message scribbled on it! Oh my.
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verlch
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Posted - 09/30/2006 : 14:58:53 [Permalink]
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You guys have alot of explaining to do. Which we all know you will claim ignorance due to the vast amounts of time for everything to develop in your theory.
Look around you, and tell me all of it happened without any thought or guidance. Then do me a favor, look in the mirror and make sure you're not dreaming!
I will remind you all that it takes more faith to believe in this silly theory, that it does to believe in the God of the bible who took the time to write about future events.
http://www.av1611.org/666/barcode.html
"He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666" (Rev. 13:16-18).
Now everything we buy has a mark on it! We even have numbers, they are waiting to place the numbers on us!
How would they have known that 2,000 years ago, there was not even all the technology that there is today!!!
"Last we heard from him the Evolutionist Freemason Illuminatus were trying to force their woman friendly ideals on the poor Christians, via worldwide conspiracies that you are involved in, with or without your knowledge."
I believe there is a cons;iracy and the devil is the one writing the play book ladies and Gentlemen!!!! What are the fruits of the Secular Humanist Liberal Progressive movement.
I bet you guys there will be some delusion that will come upon the world, that will be so great it will even trick me! Hopefully I will be on my toes, and not miss the deception!
Part of being a Christian is believing in things unseen. Having faith and believing in what you stand for!!! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/30/2006 : 15:08:18 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by verlch
Now everything we buy has a mark on it! We even have numbers, they are waiting to place the numbers on us!
How would they have known that 2,000 years ago, there was not even all the technology that there is today!!!
You're right. The technology didn't exist then, which is why the bible makes no mention of barcodes or implanted microchips. They were referring to Roman coins which required the "mark" or seal of the Emperor in order to be considered valid currency.
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I bet you guys there will be some delusion that will come upon the world, that will be so great it will even trick me! Hopefully I will be on my toes, and not miss the deception!
Yeah, it's going to be hard pulling anything over on you. 
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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/30/2006 : 15:33:30 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by verlch
You guys have alot of explaining to do. Which we all know you will claim ignorance due to the vast amounts of time for everything to develop in your theory.
Look around you, and tell me all of it happened without any thought or guidance. Then do me a favor, look in the mirror and make sure you're not dreaming!
I will remind you all that it takes more faith to believe in this silly theory, that it does to believe in the God of the bible who took the time to write about future events.
http://www.av1611.org/666/barcode.html
"He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666" (Rev. 13:16-18).
Now everything we buy has a mark on it! We even have numbers, they are waiting to place the numbers on us!
How would they have known that 2,000 years ago, there was not even all the technology that there is today!!!
"Last we heard from him the Evolutionist Freemason Illuminatus were trying to force their woman friendly ideals on the poor Christians, via worldwide conspiracies that you are involved in, with or without your knowledge."
I believe there is a cons;iracy and the devil is the one writing the play book ladies and Gentlemen!!!! What are the fruits of the Secular Humanist Liberal Progressive movement.
I bet you guys there will be some delusion that will come upon the world, that will be so great it will even trick me! Hopefully I will be on my toes, and not miss the deception!
Part of being a Christian is believing in things unseen. Having faith and believing in what you stand for!!!
And part of being sane is to not believe in fairy tales beyond about age 5. 
So, it was all done by magic, eh? Ok, but the magician was, let us say, a little on the incompent side. After all, some 99% of species that ever lived are extinct. Where's the perfection?
verlch, in the past, I have posted dozens of links detailing the scientific studies on evolution. You have chosen to ignore them. I could post dozens more, but why bother?
But just to stay on form, thee and me, let me ask: what is the reasoning that convinced you that some sort of mythical being is running a vast, world-wide conspiricy?
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Now everything we buy has a mark on it! We even have numbers, they are waiting to place the numbers on us!
How would they have known that 2,000 years ago, there was not even all the technology that there is today!!!,
Who is 'they?' (Bolding mine.)
Tattooing is an ancient tradition, It, along with and especally, branding, was often used to mark slaves. Why would not said mythical demon mark his slaves? And why would not the author of that tale mention it?
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
4826 Posts |
Posted - 09/30/2006 : 16:24:19 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by verlch
You guys have alot of explaining to do. Which we all know you will claim ignorance due to the vast amounts of time for everything to develop in your theory.
Look around you, and tell me all of it happened without any thought or guidance. Then do me a favor, look in the mirror and make sure you're not dreaming!
I will remind you all that it takes more faith to believe in this silly theory, that it does to believe in the God of the bible who took the time to write about future events.
http://www.av1611.org/666/barcode.html
"He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666" (Rev. 13:16-18).
Now everything we buy has a mark on it! We even have numbers, they are waiting to place the numbers on us!
How would they have known that 2,000 years ago, there was not even all the technology that there is today!!!
"Last we heard from him the Evolutionist Freemason Illuminatus were trying to force their woman friendly ideals on the poor Christians, via worldwide conspiracies that you are involved in, with or without your knowledge."
I believe there is a cons;iracy and the devil is the one writing the play book ladies and Gentlemen!!!! What are the fruits of the Secular Humanist Liberal Progressive movement.
I bet you guys there will be some delusion that will come upon the world, that will be so great it will even trick me! Hopefully I will be on my toes, and not miss the deception!
Part of being a Christian is believing in things unseen. Having faith and believing in what you stand for!!!
I suppose pointing out that the black guard bars in barcodes aren't 6's will veritably fly over that noggin of yours. As well as the likeness to B and M in the UPC standard that your linked source shows.
http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/barcode.asp
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 09/30/2006 : 17:48:46 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Ricky
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Look around you, and tell me all of it happened without any thought or guidance. Then do me a favor, look in the mirror and make sure you're not dreaming!
Yes, without guidance. But I got rid of all my mirrors due to another thread...
Ya know, ya just ain't been right since that truck ran over yer head...... 
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Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 09/30/2006 : 18:22:32 [Permalink]
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I bet you guys there will be some delusion that will come upon the world, that will be so great it will even trick me! Hopefully I will be on my toes, and not miss the deception!
Well, hopefully you will let us know when that happens. |
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 09/30/2006 : 19:52:47 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by filthy
quote:
Originally posted by verlch
You guys have alot of explaining to do. Which we all know you will claim ignorance due to the vast amounts of time for everything to develop in your theory.
http://www.av1611.org/666/barcode.html
Now everything we buy has a mark on it! We even have numbers, they are waiting to place the numbers on us!
How would they have known that 2,000 years ago, there was not even all the technology that there is today!!!
"Last we heard from him the Evolutionist Freemason Illuminatus were trying to force their woman friendly ideals on the poor Christians, via worldwide conspiracies that you are involved in, with or without your knowledge."
I believe there is a cons;iracy and the devil is the one writing the play book ladies and Gentlemen!!!! What are the fruits of the Secular Humanist Liberal Progressive movement.
I bet you guys there will be some delusion that will come upon the world, that will be so great it will even trick me! Hopefully I will be on my toes, and not miss the deception!
And part of being sane is to not believe in fairy tales beyond about age 5.
So, it was all done by magic, eh? Ok, but the magician was, let us say, a little on the incompent side. After all, some 99% of species that ever lived are extinct. Where's the perfection?
But just to stay on form, thee and me, let me ask: what is the reasoning that convinced you that some sort of mythical being is running a vast, world-wide conspiricy?
[quote]Now everything we buy has a mark on it! We even have numbers, they are waiting to place the numbers on us!
Tattooing is an ancient tradition, It, along with and especially, branding, was often used to mark slaves. Why would not said mythical demon mark his slaves? And why would not the author of that tale mention it?
http://777001.com/files/fagan.mp3
http://home.iprimus.com.au/mightyarmy/BTM1.htm
Fairy tales? Have you read the "Origin of Species" Lately? Just because God has not allowed you to observe the creation process, doesn't mean that it didn't happen that way!
Obviously if had read the bible we would still have contact with our Maker, since we have chosen to disobey, we will have to wait until we die!
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What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 09/30/2006 : 20:22:47 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
Just because God has not allowed you to observe the creation process, doesn't mean that it didn't happen that way!
Just because you won't look at the evidence for the evolution of species doesn't mean that it didn't happen that way.quote:
Obviously if had read the bible we would still have contact with our Maker, since we have chosen to disobey, we will have to wait until we die!
The Fall happened long before the Bible was written, so how were Adam and Eve supposed to have read it? |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 10/01/2006 : 15:13:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
I will remind you all that it takes more faith to believe in this silly theory, that it does to believe in the God of the bible who took the time to write about future events.
That is wrong.
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