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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 11/09/2006 : 09:20:19 [Permalink]
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How, exactly, did Dean manage that?
Because I don't think ex-governors get a vote in the congress.
Ah, that is my bad memory - from the 2004 primaries. A big to-do was made about Dean's speaking out against the war and urging Dems to not vote for it, and in my memory that translated to him being a Rep from Vermont at the time and having actually voted against it himself. Thanks for correcting me.
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Terroism is a real issue. I don't think there is enough fear of it.
Terrorism is a real issue if you live in Iraq. In the USA you are more likely to die of a gazillion every day things. But because 9-11 was so big and tragic and frightening, politicians used fear to their advantage. But seems you've fallen for that – hook, line and sinker! The ironic thing to me is that people who live in NYC are far less frightened of terrorism than people who live in small and remote towns. Talk about irrational fears.
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The problem with Jackson and Sharpton is that they want their issues above all else, no matter what the problems it causes They shoot of their mouths when they should shut the hell up, and keep quiet when they should speak out.
Oh please! Did you ever think that they speak out so loudly for “their issues” because they are the only speaking for them? And do you got anything to back up your claims?
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Sharpton is a scumbag. He can act like he is reformed and what not, but I still have not seen a condemnaton or apology for his past actions.
Is an apology necessary when the guy is making efforts now to get rid of homophobia in black religious communities? You got anything recent, or more than a lack of apology to show the guy is a “scumbag”?
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Pelosi is stace on abortion and gun-control, both of which I disagree with were not mentioned, but still obvious.
Um, repeat that?
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States raising the minimu wage is good. The Feds have no place in it.
Thanks for offering your opinion, but that still doesn't make this an extremist liberal position on the issue. Because states have been doing it, obviously the minimum wage raising is generally popular enough among common voters.
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However, I do not like her, or anyone, wanting to place an excess profits tax. There are rules in place about price-gouging that need to be followed when needed, but no new law needed here.
Yes, again, thanks for your opinion, but you have yet to show that Pelosi is an extreme liberal. Only that you disagree with you on some issues.
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5310 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2006 : 09:26:28 [Permalink]
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| Feds raising minimum wage is no good? I suppose Feds ending slavery wasn't good, either. I fail to see the difference. |
I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5310 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2006 : 09:35:07 [Permalink]
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| And the Democrats have deigned to raise the minimum wage to the exorbitant sum of $7.25? Wow. That's probably double what Nancy Pelosi makes. |
I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13477 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2006 : 09:49:52 [Permalink]
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Original_Intent:
Jefferson's "Wall seperating church and state" is a leftist myth.
We prefer our myths to their myths, thank you very much…
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Original_Intent
SFN Regular
USA
609 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2006 : 15:00:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by beskeptigal
The bottom line on separation of church and state is that principle is the one which has been put in place and served this country well for most of its years. It is also obvious to anyone except blind theists that separation of church and state is critical in a free society. Otherwise what you get will eventually be objectionable even to the theists.
If they got their way they'd soon realize they have to contend with just whose church one is talking about. The Evangelicals may unite in common causes but when it comes to the details they won't find such agreeable Bible interpretations. That's why there are so many different versions of religion based on the Bible. There is not this wonderful interpretation cast in stone. There are many disagreements waiting in theist fantasyland should laws based on religious beliefs become more prevalent.
Unfortunately, I totally screwed up what I am trying to get across....
So now I have to backtrack.....
The principal is fine, but it is a two way street. Free exercis has been bastarsized, when it, according to the person who gave us the wall, is the more important of the two.
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Original_Intent
SFN Regular
USA
609 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2006 : 15:49:23 [Permalink]
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marf wrote:quote:
OI wrote: quote:
Terroism is a real issue. I don't think there is enough fear of it.
Terrorism is a real issue if you live in Iraq. In the USA you are more likely to die of a gazillion every day things. But because 9-11 was so big and tragic and frightening, politicians used fear to their advantage. But seems you've fallen for that – hook, line and sinker! The ironic thing to me is that people who live in NYC are far less frightened of terrorism than people who live in small and remote towns. Talk about irrational fears.
Irrartional. Sounds like the French until someone noticed the German tanks heading their way.
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The problem with Jackson and Sharpton is that they want their issues above all else, no matter what the problems it causes They shoot of their mouths when they should shut the hell up, and keep quiet when they should speak out.
Oh please! Did you ever think that they speak out so loudly for “their issues” because they are the only speaking for them? And do you got anything to back up your claims?
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Sharpton is a scumbag. He can act like he is reformed and what not, but I still have not seen a condemnaton or apology for his past actions.
Is an apology necessary when the guy is making efforts now to get rid of homophobia in black religious communities? You got anything recent, or more than a lack of apology to show the guy is a “scumbag”?
These to really get my cackles going. Jackson "his" way attitude was a roadblock in the Civil Rights movement. He is still a rabble-rouser. Sharpton, SCUMBAG. Who needs recent? It's all about character. A man admits his mistakes, and tries to rectiy the situation, not pretend it dosen't happen. This goes doubly so for people who want to lead.
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Pelosi is stace on abortion and gun-control, both of which I disagree with were not mentioned, but still obvious.
Um, repeat that?
Pelosi is stace on abortion and gun-control, both of which I disagree with were not mentioned, but still obvious......
Seriously though, I don't agree with her here.
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States raising the minimu wage is good. The Feds have no place in it.
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Original_Intent
SFN Regular
USA
609 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2006 : 15:50:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
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Original_Intent:
Jefferson's "Wall seperating church and state" is a leftist myth.
We prefer our myths to their myths, thank you very much…
LOL, and they prefer their to yours. I prefer none.
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