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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
2102 Posts |
 Posted - 01/19/2002 : 07:14:11
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...on my hands. One of these days I will learn how to do that link thing with different text, but not now. I thought you all might get a kick out of this really wacked fundy. http://www.tencommandments.org/heathens5.shtml
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The negative expressions of God towards the existence and outworkings of the depraved natures of humans and demons is always right, whereas the negative expressions and opposition of the depraved natures of humans and demons towards God are always wrong. The very antithetical nature of the depravity of graceless humans and demons invariably enslaves them to react negatively to God regardless of what God does. Therefore, their depravity reacts negatively to God, despite the fact that God can never do evil and despite the fact that He is always perfectly innocent. Here lies also the origin of insanity.
[Emphasis is the authors]
I guess, according to this we are all insane if we don't believe in his version of god. Of course he also thinks satan is the author of atheism because we can't figure out who first authored the concept. I always kinda thought that atheism was the natural state and god was indoctrination.
Of course, this writing seems to be one long ad hominem against satan and atheists. It is really too bad about satan since the guy doesn't exist to protect himself.
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In order for satan to have endeavored to judge God, there had to be in place some type of opinion, philosophy, religion, charter or law by which he used to try to judge God. But God is not subject to anything. Nothing exists whatsoever that God is subject to or responsible to obey. God is not subject even to the most noble law in the universe - the TEN COMMANDMENTS - which He made for mankind, nor to any law made for the angels. He is above all laws and does only His own will. So there is no law He can possibly violate by any of His actions. Therefore, He cannot be rightly judged to be wrong in any action He performs. The only choices satan had by which to seek to judge God were some form of his own depravity - the antithetical principle of evil - the law of sin, or the most noble Law in the universe - the TEN COMMANDMENTS. Either choice would be the evil one attempting to judge the Righteous One - evil trying to condemn the rightousness as being evil - an impossibility and absolute deception. But he probably chose the latter so as to make God deceptively appear wrong by His own Law. Again, an impossibility and absolute deception.
Now this god thing is above the law too. If someone makes a law aren't they bound by ethics to follow that law? Oh wait, this thing doesn't believe in ethics.
Anyway, I think I may go expell my lunch and finish reading this writing, then again maybe not.
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There is no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our world. It underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've known. Sagan
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
 Posted - 01/19/2002 : 10:36:12 [Permalink]
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All of which would make me say, "Documentation, please?"
And make me have to put up with a lot more of the same.
Ah, but it's a free country, more or less, and everyone's entitled to his / her own rants and hallucinations. Sadly, it seems that the fundies rant and hallucinate so much more enthuesticly (sp?) than the rest of us. Perhaps we need to get crazier.
It is entertaining at times, though.
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Xev
Skeptic Friend
USA
329 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2002 : 12:13:53 [Permalink]
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Therefore, their depravity reacts negatively to God, despite the fact that God can never do evil and despite the fact that He is always perfectly innocent. Here lies also the origin of insanity
L Ron Hubberd would be proud.
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With God supposedly out of the picture, satan could establish all of the various erroneous manmade and demonic philosophies, religions, opinions and etc. in the world and none of them would be wrong in the eyes of his atheism. Democracy could be established to give all these the right of existence. Hence the birth of demonic democracy.
Oh pu-leeeeeze, let's buy this asshole a ticket to Iraq if he dosen't like democracy.
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Atheism didn't receive its origin by a true absence of proof of God's existence, because there has always been and always will be overwhelming proof to the contrary.
*Shrugs*
Mine did. If not absence, irrelevence.
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I have two bold challenges for atheists: If satan is not the author of atheism, I hereby challenge the most educated and capable of them to prove that satan is not its author and prove that it had an earthly origin. I also challenge atheists to prove that the TEN COMMANDMENTS were authored by a human.
Bwahahaha! 'Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence'
You can't prove a negative.
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Let atheists fashion as much dunce "proof" as they can, for it amounts to nothing more than an opiate of deception they rely upon to sooth their guilty consciences as a result of their terrible moral crimes against God and humanity.
Ahm, isn't it the Christians who think that they're forgiven for all of thier sins?
I seem to remember reading somthing about that, ah well, I am going senile in my young age.
Interesting use of 'opiate', he's ripping that off Marx.
"If anyone can show me, and prove to me, that I am wrong in
thought or deed, I will gladly change. I seek the truth, which
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James
SFN Regular
USA
754 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2002 : 19:47:40 [Permalink]
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Supposedly:
Please. *rolls eyes*
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A false conclusion that God is unjust for His actions is what began the birth process of atheism. It is very important to keep that fact in mind.
This bullcrap brings to mind a bit I have read that humans believe in god right from birth. First and foremost: ROTFLMAO! Secondly, it has been shown IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE IN THE F'ING HELL SOMEONE GROWS UP!!! *pant, pant, pant* Kids will grow up believing in what ever the heck they're told to believe in. Posters here who were religious when they were kids know what I mean. Someone who posts on another board has a son who doesn't believe in god. Heck, the kid thought church service was boring!(Not that I don't blame him...  ) Anyway, I think ya'll know what I mean and I'm getting tired.
Besides, Babylon 5: The Legend of the Rangers just came back on. 
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." -Buddha
Edited by - James on 01/19/2002 19:51:37
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Marc_a_b
Skeptic Friend
USA
142 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2002 : 06:16:32 [Permalink]
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In order for satan to have endeavored to judge God, there had to be in place some type of opinion, philosophy, religion, charter or law by which he used to try to judge God. But God is not subject to anything.
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Therefore, their depravity reacts negatively to God, despite the fact that God can never do evil and despite the fact that He is always perfectly innocent. Here lies also the origin of insanity.
But it his judgement that god is innocent, and he already argued against being able to judge god at all. If we cannot judge god to be evil, then we cannot judge god to be good either, as both are moral judgements. If god is above all rules and laws, including rules of morality the god is amoral.
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L Ron Hubberd would be proud.
Especialy if he can figure out how to either make money off of this, or increase controll over people.
So how's the weather on B3k?
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Xev
Skeptic Friend
USA
329 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2002 : 11:06:17 [Permalink]
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But it his judgement that god is innocent, and he already argued against being able to judge god at all. If we cannot judge god to be evil, then we cannot judge god to be good either, as both are moral judgements. If god is above all rules and laws, including rules of morality the god is amoral.
*Snicker snicker*
I wonder if he realizes that. Probably not.
Weather is very cold. Dosen't make the clusterlizard half very happy. :( ;)
"If anyone can show me, and prove to me, that I am wrong in
thought or deed, I will gladly change. I seek the truth, which
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