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Rift
Skeptic Friend
USA
333 Posts |
 Posted - 06/04/2001 : 19:32:34
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Thought you guys would like to see this...
Debunking Common Skeptical Arguments Against Paranormal and Psychic Phenomena
http://www.psyzone.freeserve.co.uk/winston.htm
We use to call old winston (WWu777) "Woo Woo" on the Sci.Skeptic newgroup back when I read it regularly :)
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
4607 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2001 : 19:49:07 [Permalink]
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It would seem that Skeptics are left holding the bag so to speak. I feel like such an idiot now, knowing that I have been so wrong all along and that anything anyone believes must be true. Guess we should should just close up shop and go home and drown our sorrows in beer.
@tomic
Gravity, not just a good idea...it's the law! |
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ljbrs
SFN Regular
USA
842 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2001 : 19:54:58 [Permalink]
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I read a part of the first paragraph of WWu777's section. He cannot speak for science. Science has no theories which are safe from challenge and reversal. It is up to other scientists to correct the flaws in faulty theories. For this reason, proofs in science are only tentative, although the test of time seems to have made many great theories seem to be impregnable from challenge. WWu777 does not seem to understand this. One of the problems of pseudoscience and of religion is that their followers feel safe from having their ideas challenged. Not so. Peer review in science takes care of science hypotheses and theories. The followers of these other pseudo ideas do not seem to have a clue about the scientific process.
ljbrs
If you KNEW better, you'd DO better!
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ljbrs
SFN Regular
USA
842 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2001 : 20:58:46 [Permalink]
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Explanatory addition to previous post: I have a habit of putting aside reading anything the minute it becomes blatantly irrational. I hate wasting my time with pure nonsense. I am always fearful of having my mind becoming contaminated by bad science.
That is probably even WORSE! Oh, well.
ljbrs
If you KNEW better, you'd DO better!
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ljbrs
SFN Regular
USA
842 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2001 : 21:05:18 [Permalink]
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Explanation to the explanation...
Actually, I lied. I read a lot of silly posts. I just avoid the boring ones which do not challenge the mind. I enjoy most of the posts here. But going into a mental fog is not my idea of "getting a life".
ljbrs
If you KNEW better, you'd DO better!
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
4607 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2001 : 21:24:09 [Permalink]
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I think that site is a lot like the false information given on TV as is being discussed in another topic. Part of the reason people will probably agree with that site is that it says exactly what they want to hear(see). According to this guy you can't even rule out fricken Santa Claus. Not that anyone would want to 
@tomic
Gravity, not just a good idea...it's the law! |
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
2102 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2001 : 22:27:33 [Permalink]
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quote:
I think that site is a lot like the false information given on TV as is being discussed in another topic.
True! I just finished flaming and needed a quiet annecdote. Thank you.
He's YOUR god, they're YOUR rules, YOU burn in hell! |
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Rift
Skeptic Friend
USA
333 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2001 : 00:12:56 [Permalink]
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Did you get to the part about "Skeptical Explanation of Answered Prayers"?
I want to know the believer's explanation for unanswered prayers :P and don't give me "they were't religious enough" crap either :P
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
2102 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2001 : 00:17:47 [Permalink]
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I want to know the believer's explanation for unanswered prayers :P and don't give me "they were't religious enough" crap either :P
Um, I was always told gawd can answer NO! Needless to say I was told NO lots! Yikes!
Here I was hopin' you'd waded into my little war in another thread.
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Rift
Skeptic Friend
USA
333 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2001 : 00:19:12 [Permalink]
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Oh jeez, i just read the part where he says psi experiments don't have to be replicated...
His logic? "we can't replicate comets, but we believe in them..."
OBSERVATION IS A FORM OF REPLICATING you nitwit... what a woo woo
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
2102 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2001 : 00:32:01 [Permalink]
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Yeah, it's so long I'm gonna hafta waste the paper to print it! First thing I noticed was his circular logic. Until the discovery of bacteria it didn't exist so we could not have gotten sick from it. Wonder if the boy ever heard of TAESD (temporary association of empirical sense data). No we used to get sick from demonic possession! Then we found bacteria and realized that viruses and bacteria caused infections and diseases not demonic possessions. Yeesh! Well, no Pluto didn't exist in our lexicon until we discovered it. Talk about twisting concepts and words!
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Rift
Skeptic Friend
USA
333 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2001 : 01:13:33 [Permalink]
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Yeah, it's so long I'm gonna hafta waste the paper to print it!
Ummm.... save your paper, lol. It's not worth it... :)
Wade into what war on what thread? lol
Although I'm agnostic (which does NOT mean I believe in god but don't want to obey him, lol) I think religion is a very personal thing and I don't like to argue about religion. Or politics for that matter, which is why i don't post in those folders... :)
Creationism is fair game though :)
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2001 : 01:41:21 [Permalink]
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Rift: check your inbox.
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kat99
New Member
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Posted - 06/10/2001 : 10:36:56 [Permalink]
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It would seem that Skeptics are left holding the bag so to speak. I feel like such an idiot now, knowing that I have been so wrong all along and that anything anyone believes must be true. Guess we should should just close up shop and go home and drown our sorrows in beer.
Beer works. :-)
That's how the British airforce pilots are coping with the current Chemtrail Conspiracy.
(Portions of this are hilarious!):
http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/Forum4/HTML/003947.html
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