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Neurosis
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 Posted - 01/15/2007 : 16:05:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Neurosis
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Originally posted by Dave W.
As an editor, I can't tell you how offensive I find it when people use "insure" when they mean "ensure," or use the redundant "and etc" (since the et part of et cetera means "and"). 
Sorry. I am not anal retentive with grammer and only Entend to get my point accross, reggardless of how tortured my spelling or usage is.
Edited to add: Isn't your job as an editor based on such mistakes?
That should have been, "irregardless."
I was making mistakes on purpose, Half. There was no way to highlight absent letters. Sometimes I make mistakes because its two o'clock in the morning. Other times its on purpose. This was the latter. |
Facts! Pssh, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.
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[God] is an infinite nothing from nowhere with less power over our universe than the secretary of agriculture.
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ConsequentAtheist
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Posted - 01/15/2007 : 17:12:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Neurosis
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And when was the last time that this question was seriously "entertained" by theists? ...
Go here.
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ConsequentAtheist
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Posted - 01/15/2007 : 17:15:04 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
I think the difference is between labeling theists stupid (often inaccurate), and labeling theistic beliefs and lines of reasoning stupid (entirely accurate).
What specifically is "stupid" about process theology and Deism? |
For the philosophical naturalist, the rejection of supernaturalism is a case of "death by a thousand cuts." -- Barbara Forrest, Ph.D. |
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Posted - 01/15/2007 : 17:42:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Neurosis
I was making mistakes on purpose, Half. There was no way to highlight absent letters. Sometimes I make mistakes because its two o'clock in the morning. Other times its on purpose. This was the latter.
The joke's on you, Neurosis, since "irregardless" is also a mistake, or at least still considered a mistake by many, though it's brute-forcing its way into the lexicon through popular usage. "Irregardless," when used these days, means exactly the same thing as "regardless," but sounds more fancy. |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/15/2007 : 18:04:42 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ConsequentAtheist
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
I think the difference is between labeling theists stupid (often inaccurate), and labeling theistic beliefs and lines of reasoning stupid (entirely accurate).
What specifically is "stupid" about process theology and Deism?
They rely on arguments from incredulity, unprovable assertions, and multiplying entities without necessity.
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Neurosis
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Posted - 01/15/2007 : 18:10:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by Neurosis
I was making mistakes on purpose, Half. There was no way to highlight absent letters. Sometimes I make mistakes because its two o'clock in the morning. Other times its on purpose. This was the latter.
The joke's on you, Neurosis, since "irregardless" is also a mistake, or at least still considered a mistake by many, though it's brute-forcing its way into the lexicon through popular usage. "Irregardless," when used these days, means exactly the same thing as "regardless," but sounds more fancy.
I thought that was Half's joke? I am so confused!? I thought that Half was making a joke about me being inaccurate on purpose (like correcting someone with an incorrect correction). So I was saying that I can't highlight missing letters as a return joke on correcting my correction incorrectly in the inaccurate post. Irregardless is redundant because the suffix means less (as in less regardless). My brain hurts. |
Facts! Pssh, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.
- Homer Simpson
[God] is an infinite nothing from nowhere with less power over our universe than the secretary of agriculture.
- Prof. Frink
Lisa: Yes, but wouldn't you rather know the truth than to delude yourself for happiness?
Marge: Well... um.... [goes outside to jump on tampoline with Homer.] |
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Neurosis
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Posted - 01/15/2007 : 18:16:40 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ConsequentAtheist
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
I think the difference is between labeling theists stupid (often inaccurate), and labeling theistic beliefs and lines of reasoning stupid (entirely accurate).
What specifically is "stupid" about process theology and Deism?
Theology is not stupid, it is the study of religion. But it should really be a subset of psychology/sociology (as in the psychology of religious thought). Who said anything about Deism?
Religion is 'stupid' because it is purely untestable. Therefore, it is a kin to discussing the nature of an alternative universe no one could ever visit or even know if it is real. 'Stupid' here could be replaced with a waste of time and uneccesary. |
Facts! Pssh, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.
- Homer Simpson
[God] is an infinite nothing from nowhere with less power over our universe than the secretary of agriculture.
- Prof. Frink
Lisa: Yes, but wouldn't you rather know the truth than to delude yourself for happiness?
Marge: Well... um.... [goes outside to jump on tampoline with Homer.] |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/15/2007 : 18:26:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Neurosis
Theology is not stupid, it is the study of religion. But it should really be a subset of psychology/sociology (as in the psychology of religious thought). Who said anything about Deism?
Religion is 'stupid' because it is purely untestable. Therefore, it is a kin to discussing the nature of an alternative universe no one could ever visit or even know if it is real. 'Stupid' here could be replaced with a waste of time and uneccesary.
I once heard someone remark that arguing theology was about as fruitful as arguing the geography of Narnia. I agree.
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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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ConsequentAtheist
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Posted - 01/15/2007 : 20:28:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
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Originally posted by ConsequentAtheist
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
I think the difference is between labeling theists stupid (often inaccurate), and labeling theistic beliefs and lines of reasoning stupid (entirely accurate).
What specifically is "stupid" about process theology and Deism?
They rely on arguments from incredulity, unprovable assertions, and multiplying entities without necessity.
What a joke. In fact, you haven't a clue.  |
For the philosophical naturalist, the rejection of supernaturalism is a case of "death by a thousand cuts." -- Barbara Forrest, Ph.D. |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/15/2007 : 21:08:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ConsequentAtheist
What a joke. In fact, you haven't a clue.
Yes, you've made that accusation several times now, though you haven't actually done anything to support it yet. I've read a few fancy sounding theistic arguments, but without exception, all of them fail in the end. They're a great way to rationalize faith if you're an intellectually inclined theist, but they're still not valid.
If you would like to post even one argument that you believe has merit, I'd be happy to take a closer look at it. Perhaps it's something I haven't heard before. But remember, there's never a reason to hold to theistic assumptions unless they're more compelling than not holding them. If you just end up wasting my time after all your bluster, I'm going to be pissed.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
| Edited by - H. Humbert on 01/15/2007 21:55:26 |
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Neurosis
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Posted - 01/16/2007 : 01:12:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ConsequentAtheist
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
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Originally posted by ConsequentAtheist
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
I think the difference is between labeling theists stupid (often inaccurate), and labeling theistic beliefs and lines of reasoning stupid (entirely accurate).
What specifically is "stupid" about process theology and Deism?
They rely on arguments from incredulity, unprovable assertions, and multiplying entities without necessity.
What a joke. In fact, you haven't a clue.
You never really explain yourself do you? |
Facts! Pssh, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.
- Homer Simpson
[God] is an infinite nothing from nowhere with less power over our universe than the secretary of agriculture.
- Prof. Frink
Lisa: Yes, but wouldn't you rather know the truth than to delude yourself for happiness?
Marge: Well... um.... [goes outside to jump on tampoline with Homer.] |
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 01/16/2007 : 02:53:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Neurosis
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Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by Neurosis
I was making mistakes on purpose, Half. There was no way to highlight absent letters. Sometimes I make mistakes because its two o'clock in the morning. Other times its on purpose. This was the latter.
The joke's on you, Neurosis, since "irregardless" is also a mistake, or at least still considered a mistake by many, though it's brute-forcing its way into the lexicon through popular usage. "Irregardless," when used these days, means exactly the same thing as "regardless," but sounds more fancy.
I thought that was Half's joke? I am so confused!? I thought that Half was making a joke about me being inaccurate on purpose (like correcting someone with an incorrect correction). So I was saying that I can't highlight missing letters as a return joke on correcting my correction incorrectly in the inaccurate post. Irregardless is redundant because the suffix means less (as in less regardless). My brain hurts.
I was just trying to add a common, editor-enraging non-word error to your fine list of editorial nightmares.
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ConsequentAtheist
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Posted - 01/16/2007 : 05:59:34 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
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Originally posted by ConsequentAtheist
What a joke. In fact, you haven't a clue.
But remember, there's never a reason to hold to theistic assumptions unless they're more compelling than not holding them.
That is an inordinantly childish and self-centered epistemology. Are we really obliged to characterize the "provisional Deism" of an E.O. Wilson as "stupid" because you do not find it "compelling"?
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
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Originally posted by ConsequentAtheist
What a joke. In fact, you haven't a clue.
If you just end up wasting my time after all your bluster, I'm going to be pissed.
That would be in keeping with your avatar. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/16/2007 : 06:51:09 [Permalink]
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That would be in keeping with your avatar.
I find it odd that you would stoop to argumentum ad avatar, CA. |
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