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Randy
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 01/06/2007 : 13:07:29 [Permalink]
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And another one wakes up the from the Matrix...
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 01/06/2007 : 22:32:59 [Permalink]
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Nicely written, well-reasoned, and non-confrontational. This well-educated fellow has come to his disbelief through good, old-fashioned thinking.
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Ghost_Skeptic
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Posted - 01/06/2007 : 23:46:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Nicely written, well-reasoned, and non-confrontational. This well-educated fellow has come to his disbelief through good, old-fashioned thinking.
I wonder if GK Paul will ever follow than link??
I wonder if he will ever realize how many of the SFN regulars have come to their disbelief by the same route. |
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"The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism." - William Osler
"Religion is the natural home of the psychopath" - Pat Condell
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 01/07/2007 : 01:16:45 [Permalink]
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I wonder if he will ever realize how many of the SFN regulars have come to their disbelief by the same route.
I was born this way.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 01/07/2007 : 03:47:11 [Permalink]
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Psshhh, here in ol' Brazil we've had atheist columns in a newspaper for a long time. There was a time one popular newspaper from Rio de Janeiro had a column by an atheist sitting right next to one by a mystic. The atheist's was highly popular, if only to be attacked.
Now, one online magazine from Rio Grande do Sul runs a column by an atheist who is constantly attacked - he is far more aggressive than that guy, but he's also very learned in matters of the Church. |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
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GeeMack
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Posted - 01/07/2007 : 06:27:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ghost_Skeptic...
I wonder if GK Paul will ever follow than link??
I wonder if he will ever realize how many of the SFN regulars have come to their disbelief by the same route.
Unlikely GK Paul would be fazed even if he did. Many of us realize that atheism, even though it is a sort of default condition into which we're born, is a move ahead, a transcendence, a graduation up and out of that religious mode many/most of us acquire through our cultural inheritance. GK Paul actively strives for a decrease in his awareness. He considers his lack of knowledge to be some sort of evidence to support his superstition, so he pursues his own ignorance with a vigor. Sadly, at least until (if ever) he grows up and gets the guts to face reality, he will likely continue to flounder in his ignorance, regardless of the examples of rational thinking that might be made available to him.
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moakley
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Posted - 01/16/2007 : 06:12:36 [Permalink]
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When I realized that this life was all I had, I determined to make it worth living.
For me, this one sentence says it all. How simple, and at the same time profound, the meaning of life that it is not just a dress rehearsal for eternity. |
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 01/16/2007 : 10:03:52 [Permalink]
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Great column. Thanks for posting.
Randy wrote: quote:
Some time ago, the local Austin American Statesman newspaper started a 'faith' column in their Saturday edition. Low and behold, today they ran a column written by an atheist. If only this could run in every paper.
Camp Quest - a camp for atheist, agnostic, and Humanist kids - has been written about several times, stories picked up by the AP and re-printed in "Religion and Faith" sections of newspapers all over the USA. There are other stories about the secular perspective from time to time in major newspapers and on cable news networks. And the most popular episode of the NPR segment "This I Believe" was "There is No God" by Penn Jillette: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5015557
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Randy
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Posted - 01/16/2007 : 12:08:53 [Permalink]
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| Yep, I remember hearing Jillette's on This I Believe. Think I posted the link here about it back then. To me, it's always good to hear a secular voice (how little it happens) come through the xtian drone from the media. Wish there was more of it. |
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tomk80
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Posted - 01/16/2007 : 13:52:48 [Permalink]
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| I loved that essay by Penn. It made me look up essays written by Teller. Man, that guy also is a great writer. |
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`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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Neurosis
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Posted - 01/16/2007 : 15:25:34 [Permalink]
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I loved that essay by Penn. It made me look up essays written by Teller. Man, that guy also is a great writer.
Not as good as an orator though.
I agree with a statement Half made in another post. "We are entering a Golden Age of atheism." If we continue to follow suit and march unashamed ahead, perhaps atheism will finally loose its stigma and will at least be seen as an equally acceptable position unrelated to moral ambiguity or worse yet, absence of morals altogether. I would like to post a link here (file will download immediately) to a podcast, The Non-Prophets, supported by The Atheist Community of Austin. At the end at (minutes 83:23 till 88:00) there is a letter containing an essay (and the surrounding anecdote) that I think most atheist should hear and will enjoy.
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Certain computer settings will not allow the immediate download. In such a case, the show can be found here it is show number 6.1. |
Facts! Pssh, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.
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[God] is an infinite nothing from nowhere with less power over our universe than the secretary of agriculture.
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Randy
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Posted - 01/16/2007 : 17:51:54 [Permalink]
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Interesting you bring up the Austin Atheist Community Neurosis (which I'm am a lapsed member of)....they've been running their own television program Sunday afternoons for years on a local access cable channel called "The Atheist Experience". I've watched it for years; nice way to cap-off the week/start the new week. Imagine that...a TV program by and for Atheists!, at least here in the Austin Texas area.
Why I'm bringing this up is ACA has begun again to video stream a few of the programs on the internet....
http://www.atheist-experience.com/archive/index.php?full=0
Most recent TV shows are on DVD to buy. Or, you can simply stream the audio portion...listen to it while you clean house, wash your cat, etc. |
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"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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