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PhDreamer
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USA
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Posted - 01/29/2002 :  21:13:34  Show Profile  Visit PhDreamer's Homepage Send PhDreamer a Private Message
I'm sure you've all heard this story by now: http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/01/29/wtc.burn.victim/index.html

No question this woman has been through hell but after 5 months in the hospital, I would have hoped she'd come up with something more appropriate than this:

quote:
"I thank God I'm here today," said Duch, who was wearing an Fire Department of New York cap. "When I got hurt ... I said 'God save me,' and he did."


Being to busy praisin' Jeezus, obviously she didn't figure out that she has just implicated God as an accessory in the murder of 2000-odd Christians.

So she basically says in front of the country's largest news audience that God chose to save her for his own nebulous reasons out of the thousands that prayed and died and this is supposed to be a heartwarming story? I hate being angry about this because this woman's recovery has been excrutiating and I really would like to just empathize.




Adventure? Excitement? A Jedi craves not these things. - Silent Bob

Garrette
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USA
562 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2002 :  04:34:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Garrette a Yahoo! Message Send Garrette a Private Message
Yours is an understandable reaction. I had a discussion the other day with someone about god's mercy in rescuing the thousands he did from the tower. When I insisted that if god deserves credit for saving those people, then he deserves blame for killing the others, I was met with befuddlement, denial, and eventually anger.

Apparently, I "just don't get it," a fact I confirmed when I added that god is also a baby-killer for crashing the planes.

I'm certain that I'm being prayed for now. Or at least my name is being used in close conjunction with some religious terminology.

My kids still love me.
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Slater
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USA
1668 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2002 :  10:52:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Slater a Private Message
But then, God kills everything...eventually.
In fact, death was his bright idea to begin with.

George Carlin once quipped "How can you call God perfect when everything he makes dies?"

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The brain that was stolen from my laboratory was a criminal brain. Only evil will come from it.
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Megan
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USA
163 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2002 :  22:10:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Megan a Private Message
quote:
But then, God kills everything...eventually.
In fact, death was his bright idea to begin with.

George Carlin once quipped "How can you call God perfect when everything he makes dies?"
Slater


I sould ask my former pastor that!! See what he has to say!

~Megan~

"If in the last few years you haven't discarded a major opinion or acquired a new one, check your pulse. You may be dead." - Zandermann
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@tomic
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USA
4607 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2002 :  01:10:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
If you do ask him, let us know what he says

@tomic

Gravity, not just a good idea...it's the law!
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gezzam
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Australia
751 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2002 :  05:04:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit gezzam's Homepage Send gezzam a Private Message
Her story even made it over to Australia.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,3685121%255E663,00.html

That God guy can do anything but prevent it happening in the first place.

"Damn you people. Go back to your shanties." --- Shooter McGavin
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Hook
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USA
79 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2002 :  11:17:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Hook a Private Message
God is the perfect CEO. Gets credit for all the good stuff, manipulates things to screw anyone who disagrees with it and blames all the bad stuff on the victims. Wonder how many shell companies it keeps in the Caymans?

(P-)>

"I don't care whether my neighbor believes in zero gods or 20 gods, I care whether my neighbor believes in democracy."
--Bill Moyers
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Mespo_man
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USA
312 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2002 :  10:13:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Mespo_man a Private Message
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So she basically says in front of the country's largest news audience that God chose to save her for his own nebulous reasons out of the thousands that prayed and died and this is supposed to be a heartwarming story? I hate being angry about this because this woman's recovery has been excrutiating and I really would like to just empathize.
[PhDreamer]


A very biased news story. They don't interview the people who prayed and got killed anyway, do they?

Only the survivors get saved. Who speaks for the dead?

(:raig
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 02/01/2002 :  11:02:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Sometimes it's suprising just how tough a human being can be, even those who you'd think could be wiped by a feather.

Alas, a belief in the supernatural will turn, "I'm one tough gal!" into "The Lord loves me!"

Why "Me" has yet to be explained to anyone's satisfaction. Taking it all into account, the "Lord" has loved some passing strange people.

f

I find nothing suprising in this. Facing reality is difficult for the belivers.


"They will take away my Darwin Fish only when they pry it from my cold, dead bumper!"
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Slater
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USA
1668 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2002 :  11:10:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Slater a Private Message
quote:

Only the survivors get saved. Who speaks for the dead?



"The Angel screwed me!"
--Woody Allen to Diane Keaton
Love and Death

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The brain that was stolen from my laboratory was a criminal brain. Only evil will come from it.
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Lars_H
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Germany
630 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2002 :  10:46:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lars_H a Private Message
By the same shrewed logic that some people give god credit for saving the suvivors and crashing the fourth plane before it hit something, the terrorist could as well thank him for making their attack such a success.

And they do, too!

There is as much evidence for God having been on the side of the victims that day, as there is for him having been on the side of the Terrorists.

If take into account his alledged past behaviour as recorded in the Bible the latter appears to be more likely. Throuout the book he commits and condones massmurder and genocide on a large scale, not much talk about saving people from disaster.

His attitude about High buildings is also well documented.

But pehaps God was there, but there was nothing he could do either way. Afterall the Bible also talks about his weakness against 'iron chariots', maybe airplanes fall under this category.

Apperantly there is nothing like a few religious fanataics killing thousands of people, to show humans the value of Religion and the importance of believing in God.

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