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Tokyodreamer
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USA
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 Posted - 02/15/2002 : 20:03:58 [Permalink]
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The classical civilizations did indeed have a balanced valuation of physique and intellect,
I really do hope you are not reffering to something like 'a healthy mind in a healthy body'.
Well, I can't speak for Bradley, but when I mentioned the Greeks, I just meant that they appreciated both athletic and the intellectual pursuits.
This in response to someone saying that they equate sports with dumb people (sorry for the generalization!  )
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Badger
Skeptic Friend
Canada
257 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2002 : 17:36:21 [Permalink]
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I gotta agree with Valiant Dancer and gezzam. Rugger is where it's at for unbridled violence. The ball is only there to make it socially acceptable.
I played football (American style, only with Canadian rules) in highschool, and it doesn't match rugby.
Boxing, you only get 3 minutes to fight 1 guy at a time. Rugby, you got 80 minutes to fight 15 of 'em!
As for why men are so stupid about sports, it's got a lot to do with testosterone and being the silverback gorilla of the tribe. "Your team" is an extension of you, even if the players don't even know you exist. So when "your team" beats "their team", you've won a victory over "them", at least in a biochemical sense. And most guys like a rush like that in their lives.
With regard to sport violence as compared to intelligence, I again fall back on the biochemistry of it. I betcha Einstein could be a "bubba sapien" if he found something to release enough adreanaline. Perhaps only the Dalai Llama would be able to sit back and go "Hmm, Adreanaline. I like it. I wonder why it's coursing through my system so?" rather than turn into a hooting and hollering retard when their team (or they) win the "big one".
I extrapolate this to business, and the rush of pulling together the perfect deal, undercutting the competitor, winning the big contract, making that sale, solving that problem, watching your stock rise.
And now I question the women out there. Do you have anything that turns you into a hooting, hollering, retard, like us guys get over stock cars, football (in all its forms), or winning the big one?
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Bradley
Skeptic Friend
USA
147 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2002 : 11:30:06 [Permalink]
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[quote]As for why men are so stupid about sports...[quote]
Please speak for yourself, sir.
[quote]...it's got a lot to do with testosterone and being the silverback gorilla of the tribe.[quote]
And please refrain from insulting gorillas.
"Too much doubt is better than too much credulity."
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Lisa
SFN Regular
USA
1223 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2002 : 11:37:37 [Permalink]
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And now I question the women out there. Do you have anything that turns you into a hooting, hollering, retard, like us guys get over stock cars, football (in all its forms), or winning the big one?
I'm stumblin through the parking lot of an invisible 7-eleven. ZZ-Top
Dunno. I recall getting pretty wound up during this year's Super Bowl. Then again, it could have been the beer.
Lisa
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Badger
Skeptic Friend
Canada
257 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2002 : 09:54:50 [Permalink]
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Bradley, I offer no apologies.
I offer Hockey Dad beats other hockey dad to death, and soccer riots as evidence.
With regard to gorillas, a guy can dream, can aspire to better himself, can't he?
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VVolfe347
New Member
Canada
22 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2002 : 22:42:01 [Permalink]
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If I didn't have family here in Canuckland, I'd be downunder.... PLAYING SOCCER!
LMAO
Dan Foscarini
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Tim
SFN Regular
USA
775 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2002 : 01:30:37 [Permalink]
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I've always been of the opinion that anything involving grown men chasing a ball (or similar object) up and down a field (or similar millieu) must have been invented for guys too dumb to appreciate the arts and sciences.
Hey, Yo! Bradley. I played sports in school, at least until I went to a JV football practice loaded, and busted my damned foot, of all things. They kicked me off the team. So, I did the next best thing--I tried to avoid teachers and police for the next three years.
Did being an ex-jock, and born-again stoner make me intellectually inferior to nerds, and diminish my appreciation for the arts? I remained an insatiable reader, participated in photography, and loved music.
Well, now that I think about it, Brad, maybe you're right. Some of my favorite books were the Carlos Castaneda books, and the Anarchist's Cookbook, the only thing I was really interested in photographing was girls, and my favorite music was by Black Sabbath.
Well, that was the '70's. We'd felt like we'd grown up beyond the hippies of the '60's. We didn't need no damned excuses like love and peace. Sex, drugs, and Rock n Roll was our mantra.
Oh, and I never went out with a cheerleader, either. (I never asked!) Plus, I still watch American football regularly, and I've got nothing against any other types of 'football.' I just don't know much about them. Basketball is my favorite, and enjoy playing basketball and volleyball, but these days the kids run circles around me and my knee braces.
As for the silverback thing, it's taken me over forty years to become a silverback. I used to have long blond hair. Now, I have long silver hair hanging down over my back. Don't know about no gorillas.
"The Constitution ..., is a marvelous document for self-government by Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society." P. Robertson |
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Bradley
Skeptic Friend
USA
147 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2002 : 15:56:57 [Permalink]
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Tim, I suppose that I should assume that your sloppy grammar (e. g. double negatives) is intentional and tongue-in-cheek. However, the expression "yo" is inexcusably pre-Neanderthal. Perhaps I should be happy that it wasn't used in conjunction with the epithet "dude."
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gezzam
SFN Regular
Australia
751 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2002 : 16:11:17 [Permalink]
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Perhaps I should be happy that it wasn't used in conjunction with the epithet "dude."
And "Where's my Car???"
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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 05/16/2002 : 08:33:18 [Permalink]
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And "Where's my Car???"
Oh, so you are the ONE who saw that movie. And speaking of that; aren't you supposed to be driving across the US of A in an old clunker about now?
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gezzam
SFN Regular
Australia
751 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2002 : 17:36:43 [Permalink]
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Oh, so you are the ONE who saw that movie. And speaking of that; aren't you supposed to be driving across the US of A in an old clunker about now?
November, we are heading over to your part of the world in November......
Can't wait to get away from work for two months....
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