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@tomic
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 Posted - 02/04/2002 : 21:20:18
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Zandermann
Skeptic Friend
USA
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 Posted - 02/04/2002 : 21:27:59 [Permalink]
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... I tried making some new login/logout buttons the other day and just can't seem to do it quite right. Not that they are all that bad....
I think they're quite good, if nothing other than a change of pace.
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If anyone out there would like to or has a hankering to design then I would welcome ideas for elements such as buttons to full fledged redesign.
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gezzam
SFN Regular
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Posted - 02/04/2002 : 21:39:15 [Permalink]
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If anyone out there would like to or has a hankering to design then I would welcome ideas for elements such as buttons to full fledged redesign.
I can do asp coding and javascript stuff if you ever need a hand.......however, I am not artistic, I am autistic.....
"Damn you people. Go back to your shanties." --- Shooter McGavin
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Snake
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Posted - 02/04/2002 : 23:05:33 [Permalink]
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Yes I am talking about me..... @tomic. I tried making some new login/logout buttons the other day and just can't seem to do it quite right. Not that they are all that bad. It's just that they would go better on a website devote to hip hop.
You mean that thing that says LOGIN/LOGOUT up there? I wondered what that was all about. No offence @, you are right it's not that bad just a little out of place such as the site is now. However, having said that, no one is completely non-artistic. It's all art!
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If anyone out there would like to or has a hankering to design then I would welcome ideas for elements such as buttons to full fledged redesign.
@tomic
Funny you should ask! I just finished a design class (color theory, etc.). The same one I had years ago, so not much of the info was new but since each teacher has different ideas and projects I did learn some new techniques.
I don't know how to make things on the computer. I could critique or advise on what you come up with, if you like.
Personaly, I don't see that you need to change the site unless there's something I don't know about. It works well to me. (too much 'noise' is distracting.) "Less is More." "Form follows Function."
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
4607 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2002 : 00:19:45 [Permalink]
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One thing you need to understand about websites....they evolve constantly due to user demands, new technology and just because change is good(read: job security)
But they always change. There is, after all, no such thing as perfection though we all aspire to it.
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 02/05/2002 : 10:57:26 [Permalink]
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@tomic, yellow and purple aren't exactly complimentary colors. You should know that Snake - especially just finishing color theory. Here's an idea - take Photoshop (you are using Photoshop - right?) and under the arrow button at the top right of your color pallette it allows you to pick either the complimentary color or (Yack can't remember) but changes the color to another choice based on the color your using. It's really quite simple. Then with Photoshop under effects you can make the buttons that are embossed and do the embossing in the opposite direction so it looks like you've pushed the button in.
Get a good graphic program though. CorelDraw or Painter or Photoshop. Forego the thing that comes with Windows - it's not worth it.
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Snake
SFN Addict
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Posted - 02/06/2002 : 00:00:50 [Permalink]
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@tomic, yellow and purple aren't exactly complimentary colors. You should know that Snake
LOL- actually they ARE. But you are not exactly wrong. There are different color ('wheels')theories, there's the light theory and then there's pigments, each works with different hues.
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Here's an idea - take Photoshop (you are using Photoshop - right?) and under the arrow button at the top right of your color pallette it allows you to pick either the complimentary color or (Yack can't remember)
That's ok that you can't remember, if you are trying to tell me what to do. I'm the kind of guy who 'if all else fails, read the instructions'. I once had a really good PhotoShop program that @ helped me with but when I changed computers a few years ago, don't know what happened to it. The one that's in this computer now, is I think Photoshop 6 and also there's a 2 or a 5 or something. Plus one that came with the recent purchase of a digital camera. I get frustrated reading what to do and nothing happens the way it's supposed to so I just click things until something does happen. I know that's limiting but 'what is one to do?'
I keep saying one of these days I'll take a computer course or try to learn but there's just no time to do everything. Thanks.
On a happier note, if/when I get around to it, I will try to fool around with your suggestions.
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Snake
SFN Addict
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Posted - 02/06/2002 : 00:07:21 [Permalink]
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One thing you need to understand about websites....they evolve constantly due to user demands, new technology and just because change is good(read: job security)
But they always change. There is, after all, no such thing as perfection though we all aspire to it.
@tomic
Job security, eh! Ok, @ whatever you say.
Change is good, ok? Guess I'm just too lazy.
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 02/06/2002 : 14:29:21 [Permalink]
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@tomic, yellow and purple aren't exactly complimentary colors. You should know that Snake
LOL- actually they ARE. But you are not exactly wrong. There are different color ('wheels')theories, there's the light theory and then there's pigments, each works with different hues.
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Here's an idea - take Photoshop (you are using Photoshop - right?) and under the arrow button at the top right of your color pallette it allows you to pick either the complimentary color or (Yack can't remember)
That's ok that you can't remember, if you are trying to tell me what to do. I'm the kind of guy who 'if all else fails, read the instructions'. I once had a really good PhotoShop program that @ helped me with but when I changed computers a few years ago, don't know what happened to it. The one that's in this computer now, is I think Photoshop 6 and also there's a 2 or a 5 or something. Plus one that came with the recent purchase of a digital camera. I get frustrated reading what to do and nothing happens the way it's supposed to so I just click things until something does happen. I know that's limiting but 'what is one to do?'
I keep saying one of these days I'll take a computer course or try to learn but there's just no time to do everything. Thanks.
On a happier note, if/when I get around to it, I will try to fool around with your suggestions.
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True on the color theories, however, in pigments purple and green are complimentary colors. Not yellow, if I recall correctly.
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Snake
SFN Addict
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Posted - 02/06/2002 : 23:05:50 [Permalink]
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True on the color theories, however, in pigments purple and green are complimentary colors. Not yellow, if I recall correctly.
Sorry Trish. Take a look at this:
http://www.colormatters.com/designart.html
I'll be in class tomorrow, if I remember, will ask my teacher for the web sites he recommened on color. In the mean time I found this one which looks nice. @ may want to look at it too as it has a link for choosing colors for web pages.
ps. LOL, I can see how you might not want to know that green is the complmemtry of the primary RED, since you might not decorate for xmas, LOL.
Hey, you aren't color blind are you?
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Trish
SFN Addict
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Posted - 02/08/2002 : 09:37:29 [Permalink]
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OK Purple and Yellow-Green (or is that Green-Yellow?). Basically the SFN in the upper left looks good those are complimentary colors. Only if you use secondary colors do you get purple and yellow. Most color theory relies on tertiary colors - which are shown. So I again state Purple and Green.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 02/08/2002 : 19:44:08 [Permalink]
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This may be one of the few times I am gratefull for being color blind....
The Evil Skeptic
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Snake
SFN Addict
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Posted - 02/09/2002 : 01:57:58 [Permalink]
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OK Purple and Yellow-Green (or is that Green-Yellow?). Basically the SFN in the upper left looks good those are complimentary colors.
Just a small point, yellow-green/green-yellow is not exactly the same as being opposit as 'true' purple but let's not start getting too technical.
Yes the 'LOGIN' thingie is yelloish/purple but I don't know if that's important, one can choose many other combinations. Was that the point of the orginal post, to have complementary colors for the buttons?
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Only if you use secondary colors do you get purple and yellow. Most color theory relies on tertiary colors - which are shown. So I again state Purple and Green.
I have studied art for many years, painted in oils, done a lot of photography (where the light study comes in), and mixed my own glazes for ceramics, among studying other medias as well. Sorry Tish, don't know what your background is. I was going on the assumption that most people unless they are decorators don't really deal with tertiary colors. But still, and I don't want to argue with you, green and purple are not really opposits, what you are seeing (on that or any other wheel) are many combinations (many mixtures of various pigments) so of course there is overlap. One can call chartreuse, green and blue-violet, purple, once we start getting away from the most basic colors it is infinite as to what name one gives a color. Yes, you do see some form of green opposit some mixture of red and blue(purple) but I also still say it's not correct to say 'true' purple is opposit 'true' green.
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Snake
SFN Addict
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Posted - 02/09/2002 : 02:01:09 [Permalink]
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This may be one of the few times I am gratefull for being color blind....
The Evil Skeptic
No wonder, you've never been impressed or SHOCKED by what I've worn.
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 02/10/2002 : 18:13:00 [Permalink]
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Snake,
Graphic Design and Computer Animation are where my education has been. We deal primarily with RGB and CMYK for obvious reasons. Then we get into Pantone color schemes. My understanding of color theory is rudimentary at best, however, the purple and yellow make my eyes buggie and the purple and green doesn't. No offense meant or implied.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 02/10/2002 : 18:53:53 [Permalink]
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Snake,
Graphic Design and Computer Animation are where my education has been. We deal primarily with RGB and CMYK for obvious reasons. Then we get into Pantone color schemes. My understanding of color theory is rudimentary at best, however, the purple and yellow make my eyes buggie and the purple and green doesn't.
That's what I love about art, some people act so snoby about it but IMO it's what any one individual likes. Who's to say what's really right. Everyone has their own taste.
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No offense meant or implied.
Oh! Was I supposed to be ofended?!!!
Just because Yellow and Purple ARE MY favorite colors!
BTW, since I've only printed in B&W I only have a simple understanding of RGB, in photography that is, so I guess we are even, ha ha.
One reason I guess I'm so picky is because as an example of what we had to learn was 'to see color'. As I said, it's been my expierence that people see a color and say blue, or green but we had to litterally mix and match a color to a swatch of fabric, several of them. We had to decide how many drops of red combined with whatever else would match exactly the material. After that you look at things differently. But I guess it can be frustrating in color photo printing trying to match a subject too. It was for me when I'd get a print back and have to tell the lab it's not correct.
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Edited by - snake on 02/10/2002 18:58:08 |
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