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Tokyodreamer
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USA
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 Posted - 02/14/2002 : 11:09:42
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I don't recall this being discussed before. What does everyone think about the symbol? Is it a good idea?
http://www.atheists.org/visitors.center/logo.html
Here in Alabama, Larry Darby, state director of American Atheists, is running for State Attorney General (oh, how awesome that would be!  ), and they were trying to get a sculpture of the symbol put up along side Judge Roy "Moses" Moore's 5000lbs. Ten Commandments monument, but no luck (so far).
http://www.atheists.org/al/
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Edited by - tokyodreamer on 02/14/2002 11:10:53
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DVF
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 02/14/2002 : 12:15:22 [Permalink]
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I like the concept of a symbol, but I don't like the symbol itself. Too Star-Trek. I'd rather see a simpler design.
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Mespo_man
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 02/14/2002 : 12:15:25 [Permalink]
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With all due respect...
The two rings mean that "they" (atheists) are from the planet of the second orbit, Venus. The arch means that they have taken over St. Louis, Gateway to the West. And the "A" is a stylistic Star Trek communicator with which they, transporting armies from the home planet, will enslave the world.
Sorry, but it looks like something that would be passed out at a "Trekie" convention. The problem with the symbol is that too much thinking went into it. Something that came out of a corporate marketing department or a Hollywood add agency.  .
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Tokyodreamer
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USA
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Posted - 02/14/2002 : 12:35:57 [Permalink]
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Yeah, I'm not too pleased with it either. But what about the idea of a symbol itself? Should atheists have a symbol?
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Xev
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 02/14/2002 : 12:42:57 [Permalink]
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Here in Alabama, Larry Darby, state director of American Atheists, is running for State Attorney General
Really and truely?!
I've always been partial to the Darwinfish, but it isn't exclusivly an athiest symbol...
And, perhaps that is best. We athiests can be rather hard to classify, especially since we have no 'church'.* Perhaps the lack of a symbol is best... after all, athiesm is more personal than religion. Or thiesm.
*Don't listen to her. We're meeting on Sunday as planned. Bring beer. And people, please spare a thought to quality control when it comes to the wild group -right 
Thought constitutes the greatness of man -Pascal
Edited for rambling - too much sugar, too little sleep.
Edited by - Xev on 02/14/2002 12:50:41
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Mespo_man
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 02/14/2002 : 12:43:29 [Permalink]
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More symbol problems. From the article...
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That open orbital forms an "A" to represent Atheism. The small letter in the center represents of the first letter of the country in which an affiliated group is located. In our case, the "A" signifies American, and the symbol thus represents American Atheists.
So atheists in other countries have to scramble for the other 25 letters of the alphabet? And there are 140 plus sovereign nations recognized by the United Nations?
If I were non-American, the "A" would symbolize Arrogance. The Ugly American strikes again. Back to the drawing board folks, and stop trying to be so damn logical. Symbols are supposed to have EMOTIONAL appeal. Something the left-hemisphere designers overlooked. 
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Xev
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 02/14/2002 : 12:57:09 [Permalink]
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Craig: Actually, I think it is just American athiest's personal symbol thingy. It's not supposed to represent all of us.
What about a planet with a stylized orbit around an 'X'? With a star in the distance, but connected. X is much better, since it's used more commonly to symbolize an unknown. And an X is prettier.
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Mespo_man
Skeptic Friend
USA
312 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2002 : 13:03:14 [Permalink]
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X is much better, since it's used more commonly to symbolize an unknown. And an X is prettier.
Getting better, Xev, but not there yet. When I left the voting booth last November, I was handed a paste-on circle with an "X" in it. I VOTED today, Gawsh.
you KNOW what's going to happen next, don't 'cha. Atheists will agree on a symbol, followed by an Atheist Flag, a national anthem, a pledge of allegiance, Constitution, and a seat in the U.N. General Assembly.
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Xev
Skeptic Friend
USA
329 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2002 : 13:13:08 [Permalink]
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Craig, we already have an anthem, 'Dear God' by XTC.
We need a mascot though.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 02/14/2002 : 13:25:34 [Permalink]
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This is something that I really don't care all that much about (so why am I wasting everybody's time writing this?).
I suppose a symbol might be a good thing to have; everyone else has one, it seems. But, I think the athiests can do a little better than what's shown.
Perhaps some form of a question mark?
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A hundred years before the advent of Hitler, the German-Jewish poet, Heinrich Heine, had declared: "Wherever books are burned, human beings are destined to be burned too."
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Marc_a_b
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 02/14/2002 : 13:41:49 [Permalink]
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A question mark would be more for agnostics than atheists.
Symbols are usualy supposed to be something of revernce, or represent something important to the group. How about a spiral galaxy? It would represent the grandure and wonder we have for the universe as it is, rather than revering fairy tails.
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Xev
Skeptic Friend
USA
329 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2002 : 13:52:16 [Permalink]
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"Never piss off an agnostic, or they will come by and spray-paint a question mark on your house"
Or somthing like that.
I like a spiral galaxy.
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PhDreamer
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 02/14/2002 : 14:01:31 [Permalink]
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I'll go with the spiral galaxy. Someone gave me a shirt that has an artistic conception of the Milky Way on the front with an arrow pointing toward an out-of-the-way region of one of the arms and text that says, "You are here." It's my second favorite shirt behind my Steeltown Spartans Volleyball club shirt that I 'appropriated' from the young lady who coached their 14-and-under team.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 02/14/2002 : 14:02:52 [Permalink]
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As an agnostic, I guess I was just, well, questioning. It's our best riff.
Hmm. The spiral galaxy does sound pretty good. I hope they use something other than what's shown
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A hundred years before the advent of Hitler, the German-Jewish poet, Heinrich Heine, had declared: "Wherever books are burned, human beings are destined to be burned too."
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Lars_H
SFN Regular
Germany
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Posted - 02/14/2002 : 18:02:20 [Permalink]
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I really don't like the idea of an atheist symbol. I understand that it is meant to represent American atheists (people who have at least on some level something in common), but it still tries to sell atheist as a group of people who belive in the same kind of things.
It is like saying that atheism is a religion.
Do I need a special sign, too, for all the other stuff I don't care about? Maybee a fake trickot I could wear to tell people that I am not a fan of any soccer club. And then I would need a baseball cap with a special symbol that proclaims that I don't support any baseball team in paticular.
You can see where this would lead.
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 02/14/2002 : 18:47:24 [Permalink]
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Symbol for Agnosticism:An image of someone shrugging with open palms out
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