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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 03/02/2002 : 21:08:54 [Permalink]
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Go for it, bro!
And let us know when it goes down. I'd love to see the slippery rascal pinned to the wall, and I ain't alone. But study him carefully. He has a reputation of sliding away from the topic and trying to bully his opponent. This is why he won't do a written debate. He doesn't want to give the guy across the table a chance to think.
If you do it, DO IT!!
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"Don't tell me your doubts; I've got enough doubts of my own. Tell me something you BELIEVE in!"
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Kaneda Kuonji
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2002 : 23:35:16 [Permalink]
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I'm wanting to derail him completely.
I have an idea, but I'll need an airhorn like you get at sports arenas. If he slides off-topic, I can use it to force him back on. I have the tools at my fingertips, it is just that beating him will require me to be creative.
Hey, it'll be good experience for a paralegal!
Rodney Dean, CI Order of the Knights of Jubal
Ivbalis.org
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James
SFN Regular
USA
754 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2002 : 06:35:38 [Permalink]
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[quote]
I'm wanting to derail him completely.
I have an idea, but I'll need an airhorn like you get at sports arenas. If he slides off-topic, I can use it to force him back on. I have the tools at my fingertips, it is just that beating him will require me to be creative.[/quote]
Well, if you're gonna set up in an arena, I'd say, just to really attempt to get the upper hand, get experts from every single field affected by evolution and sit them in the front rows, dressed in regular clothes. Also, try and get the world's best double talker. He was on Regis' morning show recently, I think. Anyway, have them all sit in the front rows, right in front of the area where you plan on speaking. Whenever Hovind gets off topic, BLAST him with a bullhorn. You may invite the general public, but have them seated in the nosebleed seats. ;-)
You just might be able to win.
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." -Buddha |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2002 : 09:12:49 [Permalink]
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I and my favorite, pet Rattlesnake vollenteer to serve as co-moderators.
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"Don't tell me your doubts; I've got enough doubts of my own. Tell me something you BELIEVE in!"
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Kaneda Kuonji
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2002 : 12:40:04 [Permalink]
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Man, this can be so fun, and I need to make sure this gets NATIONAL attention. Not just the scientific journals, but CNN and other media need to cover this.
No shelter, no escape. If he loses, he loses completely.
Rodney Dean, CI Order of the Knights of Jubal
Ivbalis.org
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The Rat
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 03/09/2002 : 20:29:55 [Permalink]
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This is from this same forum, last June;
Here's a counterchallenge that I sent to Dr. Doofus last year. All I got back was what appeared to be a form letter. Does he even read his mail? Anyhooo, I thought some of you might find it interesting;
Mr. Hovind,
Regarding your $250,000 offer for proof of evolution; I am willing to do better than that. If you can offer proof of the existence of your god then I will willingly, and immediately upon proof, deliver myself into his judgment. I would be pleased to meet you in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, on a day of your choice. I will have in my possession sufficient means to bring about my swift death, and I assure you that I will pose no risk to yourself or any innocent bystanders.
I will attempt to post this notice on various websites dealing with the creation/evolution controversy, as I am sure that there would be many interested parties on both sides. Once this has been accepted for posting on any website I will inform you of the URL where it may be found. Of course, feel free to post this on your site.
Please contact me at this e-mail address so that we may work out the details. I await your reply.
Sincerely,
David Bailey
His reply;
From: "Kent Hovind" <kent@drdino.com>
Subject: RE: Evolution challenge
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:21:10 -0600
Thanks for your e-mail. From your statements it sounds like you need to
watch my entire seminar. It will answer all your questions. We have the
entire seminar on our web site (www.drdino.com) as a virtual slide show.
Your answer also demonstrates that there is no evidence for evolution so why
do we all pay to have it taught? I do read all my e-mail but do to my
hectic travel schedule I cannot always give long or personalized answers to
e-mail questions. I trust you will understand. Feel free to call me at my
office if you would like to talk to me personally. I am normally in from
Wednesday through Friday at 850-479-3466 but some weeks my schedule is
different. It may be that someone on my staff can assist you if I am not
available. God loves you and has a home in Heaven for you if you want it.
Thanks,
Kent Hovind
Well, there you have it, a non-reply. I also sent it to the good dingbats at jesusislord.com a while ago - no reply. And it was probably a little too 'in yer face!' for most skeptic sites. Only one, The Skeptic Tank, put it up.
In case you're wondering what “sufficient means to bring about my swift death” I was referring to, there is Water Hemlock, Cicuta maculata, in the marshes in this area, and the woodlands have the mushroom Amanita virosa. A combination of these would not only be lethal, but would make a 911 call a waste of time.
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Kaneda Kuonji
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 03/09/2002 : 21:16:55 [Permalink]
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*reads the previous post*
Heh, a friend of mine with Ivbalis e-mailed him as well to address the allegations, and got almost the exact same reply.
He doesn't read his e-mail at all, yet has time for phone calls. What a jackass!
Rodney Dean, CI Order of the Knights of Jubal
Ivbalis.org
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13477 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2002 : 19:56:37 [Permalink]
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There was a brief e-mail exchange with Hovind here at SFN. He wrote to Tommy Huxley to complain about Tommy's parody of Hovind's Chick Tracks, also here on the site.
Again, Hovind refused a written debate. He is a major chicken and his complaint was pure chicken shit.
http://www.skepticfriends.org/letter055.asp
The Evil Skeptic
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