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Snake
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Posted - 04/13/2002 :  02:00:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
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I have also seen that people who love computers (use them all the time and are always looking for more speed, more memory, more display and better resolution, etc) tend to forget that a lot of people really don't care. They just want something that works for the two or three or five things they have to use the computer for. They don't care about bells and whistles, they don't care about greater speed (beyond a certain threshold), they just want to know if they can do what they do and that's ok

How refreshing to find someone who is not pretentious about having the latest tech gadget. Nothing personal to anyone posting here. I'm so tired of people thinking they have to have the fanciest car, 0-60 in 2 sec. or the latest brand name 'T'shirt or tennis shoes. All I need it something to get me from point A to point B and paying $20 for a pair of shoes when I can pay $5 doesn't impress me. Thank you for understanding Hook.
BTW, I do plan to do graphics and photography have thought about a Mac for a long time. My room mate doesn't want one. He says there aren't enough programs for it. How can I talk him into getting one. And do any of you know the statistics for the machine I'd need? I want to have a web site that will display my own photographs that I've taken from my 35mm camera (from prints and transparentcies after they've been scanned) and some digital photos of my 3D and 2D art work. But keep in mind I probably won't need the new computer for at least 3-6 more months so I guess the info is a waste at this time, ha ha.

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James
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Posted - 04/13/2002 :  04:25:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send James a Yahoo! Message Send James a Private Message
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BTW, I do plan to do graphics and photography have thought about a Mac for a long time. My room mate doesn't want one. He says there aren't enough programs for it. How can I talk him into getting one. And do any of you know the statistics for the machine I'd need? I want to have a web site that will display my own photographs that I've taken from my 35mm camera (from prints and transparentcies after they've been scanned) and some digital photos of my 3D and 2D art work. But keep in mind I probably won't need the new computer for at least 3-6 more months so I guess the info is a waste at this time, ha ha.


No, no, no, no. getting info now will only help you decide on what you want and allow you to budget some more money(if need be) for it. Also, if you know what you are looking for, you're less likely to get a computer with, basically, crap inside.

AFA getting a Mac is concerned, your roommate is right in that there are more programs out for the PC, but that's a computer industry thing I doubt you're interested in. If I were you, and you could afford it and if you could find approximately the same software for both a PC and a Mac, I'd get the PC as a desktop, mainly to use for the web site, etc. Also, I'd get a Mac laptop. That way, if you are away from your house, you could upload you pictures to your laptop and see how they look ahead of time. But that's me.

Since you probably just want the one computer, for now just look at programs that you want. Hopefully you can find software like that for the Mac.

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Snake
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Posted - 04/13/2002 :  21:26:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
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No, no, no, no. getting info now will only help you decide on what you want and allow you to budget some more money(if need be) for it. Also, if you know what you are looking for, you're less likely to get a computer with, basically, crap inside.

Great advice, James. Thanks. In about a year I will be traveling back and forth, only 70 miles away but it would be convenient to have a small computer to take with me. I don't know if I'll have a phone line or electricity at the new house though.

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Trish
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Posted - 04/14/2002 :  08:31:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Trish a Private Message
Snake - For the computer graphics that you're interested in doing the Mac is actually preferred. Using Adobe products both your files and the programs will flip between the PC and the Mac platforms. I prefer Linux or a Unix type platform (but that's me - I also use 3D StudioMax extensively).

James - the newest Macs are supposed to be running OS10 now, which is based on the Unix Mach Kernel. Which gives them a further range than they had before. Remember OS10 was completely revamped.

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James
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754 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2002 :  11:40:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send James a Yahoo! Message Send James a Private Message
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James - the newest Macs are supposed to be running OS10 now, which is based on the Unix Mach Kernel. Which gives them a further range than they had before. Remember OS10 was completely revamped.


I wouldn't know because I use PC's.

Snake, here's your new expert. I bow to her knowledge and wisdom.

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Snake
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Posted - 04/16/2002 :  21:51:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
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Snake, here's your new expert. I bow to her knowledge and wisdom.


Fine. Now, if I only knew what she was talking about. Or in other words, this is what I'm always telling my Chinaman room mate who's from Thailand.....Speak English!!

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Hook
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USA
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Posted - 04/17/2002 :  01:16:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Hook a Private Message
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BTW, I do plan to do graphics and photography have thought about a Mac for a long time. My room mate doesn't want one. He says there aren't enough programs for it. How can I talk him into getting one. And do any of you know the statistics for the machine I'd need? I want to have a web site that will display my own photographs that I've taken from my 35mm camera (from prints and transparentcies after they've been scanned) and some digital photos of my 3D and 2D art work.



Snake,

Trish is right. Consider the two primary markets that are still Mac dominated... publishing and graphics. The MAC is still better optimized for graphics handling.

Probably for 90% of things, these days, there really isn't much difference between PCs and Macs. PCs are better game machines (if only because most games are developed initially for the PC platform) and PCs are easier to tinker with (but Macs usually need a whole lot less tinkering). PCs have more freeware (check out http://www.nonags.comand other sites, but Mac software is very stable and optimized to the OS (because both the OS AND the hardware are propriatory).

It really depends on how sophisticated you want to get with the photos and graphics.

Whichever you buy, get the maximum ram and hard drive size you can afford. Those are the two most important resources. If a choice between RAM (memory) and CPU speed, for instance, go for max ram.

Also, figure out what you want to do now and what you think you might want to do 5 years from now. Find different software packages that seem to do that. What are their requirements (Memory, speed, HD space). That will also help you decide based on real, functional need.

Hope this helps.

(P-)>

Edited because I'm a bloody idiot! Sorry, Trish.

"I don't care whether my neighbor believes in zero gods or 20 gods, I care whether my neighbor believes in democracy."
--Bill Moyers

Edited by - Hook on 04/17/2002 10:25:04
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Trish
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USA
2102 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2002 :  10:01:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Trish a Private Message
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Lisa is right.


But...but...I'm not Lisa! *whine* Lisa didn't even respond. *whine* Why does everyone think I'm Lisa? *whine*

Ok, feel much better now. Some good advice from Hook. Get the best you can, when you seiously start into the graphics. My preference is the Adobe line of products, they are also among the most expensive. I find them easier to use than Corel and some of the knock off software. Also, get yourself a good three pass scanner to scan your photos and you can find ones that scan your negatives also. If you can, take a class to learn how to best use whatever program package you go with. Another reason I like Adobe - their Classroom in a Book. Includes a CD and lesson plans for learning the software package.

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