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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/23/2013 :  02:23:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bunch of math in chapter 12.

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Posted - 10/06/2013 :  21:08:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I missed last week, so you can have two installments today.

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Posted - 10/13/2013 :  21:18:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow:
I can at this point confirm that I have found the maximum possible scorn I can have for a sci-fi author, because I cannot scorn any author more than I do Orson Scott Card. What a tool.

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Posted - 10/27/2013 :  20:09:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
One more week to go, I think. The movie comes out on Friday. Anyone have plans to see it?

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 10/28/2013 :  02:58:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm planning. I basically never say no to sci-fi. My wife and I average around 20-25 theatre visits/year and Ender's Game will help us fill up our quota for 2013. We saw Gravity this weekend, and next is probably Thor 2.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/03/2013 :  05:18:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And we're done. Except...
As a terrifying epilogue, next week I'll go back and look at the introduction to Ender's Game.
By the way, the movie rates 62% on the Tomatometer. Not great, but not horrible, either.

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Posted - 11/10/2013 :  21:38:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And with the Introduction (which in that edition, seems to be a massive pile of ego-stroking), we're really finished with this book.

At the movies, Ender's Game had a $27 million opening. Number one on a non-holiday weekend, but only $7 million more than the latest offering from the Jackass crew.

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Posted - 12/08/2013 :  11:51:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So in five weeks, Ender's Game has taken in $59.4 million. With one more week, Bad Grandpa has earned $98.8 million. And in only two weeks, the latest Hunger Games flick has earned $296.3 million.

And Will Wildman has started his Speaker for the Dead deconstruction.

Edited to add that unlike with Ender's Game, Wildman hasn't read Speaker yet, so this series isn't going to be so well cross-linked.

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Posted - 12/10/2013 :  02:55:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've seen the movie now. I actually liked Ender's Game. But then, when it comes to stories I can usually suspend my disbelief to enjoy it. I haven't read the book, so I can't say how close the movie follows it, that's another potential source of annoyance removed.

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Posted - 12/11/2013 :  17:32:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, looks like the movie isn't going to recoup its $110 price tag. That makes it officially a flop. Don't expect a sequel.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 12/15/2013 :  17:18:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Chapter one, part two is up. Wildman says that since there's no movie deadline for Speaker, he's going to proceed in smaller, more detailed chunks:
Let's draw this sucker out, eh?

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Posted - 12/31/2013 :  08:51:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Chapter one, part three, in which Pipo makes a lot of bad decisions. I think it's the author making those decisions:
Is there anyone who doesn't find it howlingly infuriating when a character figures out a vital secret but then refuses to tell anyone else for no good reason and then walks voluntarily into incredible danger? ... This isn't hard. Write something down and take precautions... write a note or something. Don't just Fermat us. That's a jackass move.

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Posted - 01/12/2014 :  17:29:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I missed last week, so have two more chapters. Favorite bit this week:
THIS COLONY WAS BADLY WRITTEN!

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I know that this is an old thread, but I have to say that I had heard the book hyped (it was on several "top ten science fiction books" lists) and checked it out of the library. I took it back to the library with several chapters unread. The protagonist is a total ass, and the entire premise is implausible to the point of insulting the intelligence of the reader. I have tried to read some of Card's other series, but found the author's sensibilities to be disturbing at best. I don't know any more about him other than he is among a handful of popular Mormon sci-fi and fantasy writers, and that he lives in my home state.

"Man's most valuable trait is a judicious sense of what not to believe." --Euripides
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