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RadioMusicBox
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 Posted - 06/18/2008 : 16:21:31 [Permalink]
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Many, right here in these forums:The above are just a taste.
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Damn dude! That's a list right there. Wow!  |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 06/18/2008 : 17:14:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by RadioMusicBox
Damn dude! That's a list right there. Wow! |
And that's just a small taste, from a bunch of guys who came here from another forum with the intent of performing a "total truth takeover" of the SFN. There are lots more in our archives of this folder. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 06/18/2008 : 17:47:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by RadioMusicBox
Damn dude! That's a list right there. Wow! |
And that's just a small taste, from a bunch of guys who came here from another forum with the intent of performing a "total truth takeover" of the SFN. There are lots more in our archives of this folder.
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That was fun. We all got a little crazy. I found it amusing when everyone deserted their buddy to his fate. But he hung in there pretty well, didn't he?
Another was bigbrain's moon landing & Voyager hoax booshwah. And, of course, who could forget verlch's really wild, Illuminati & Freemason conspiricies?
Ah Music, you missed some good ones....
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2008 : 18:42:18 [Permalink]
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RMB said:
| Damn dude! That's a list right there. Wow! |
That was Dave's list, not mine.
But yeah.. the 9/11 threads were a trip. Those dipshits are still out there. They invaded an episode of Maher's show this past season, disrupted it live. He had to have security restore order.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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RadioMusicBox
New Member
USA
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 Posted - 06/18/2008 : 19:03:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
RMB said:
| Damn dude! That's a list right there. Wow! |
That was Dave's list, not mine.
But yeah.. the 9/11 threads were a trip. Those dipshits are still out there. They invaded an episode of Maher's show this past season, disrupted it live. He had to have security restore order.
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I've watched that episode on YouTube. It had me ROTFLMAO.  |
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 06/19/2008 : 00:51:10 [Permalink]
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Dude.....
| bng... have you taken leave of your senses at last? Or maybe just forgot to take your meds? |
My senses are departing more rapidly than your pot is boiling, but I just love to evoke exclamatory comments like the above from you! The fucking meds have become so complex that I am going to need another PhD to even address the what and why of them.
Dude, I hope that somewhere at the end of this century when you are approaching my current age and decrepitude, medical science has advanced to the point that multiple deteriorations can be treated as a single complex instead of as individual disorders! I frankly have no idea if I'm on or off, and frequently I don't give a shit!
As to the 9/11 issue, I honestly do believe that several specific individuals (Cheney is one) at least had excellent foreknowledge of the 9/11 attack. As to whether he was involved in planted demolitions, etc.; no, the logistics are too difficult.
But as to compliance or cooperation with Arab terrorists, I feel that there is a distinct possibility simply because it worked so well to further the basic neocon policy intentions of controlling Middle East oil, creating a vast military market for many aspects of american industry (of which Halliburton and Blackwater are only minor examples).
Bush and Rumsfeld finally screwed up the whole plan due to stupid lack of planning of the Iraq war and non-existent intelligence! But I certainly think that the intention was the control and acquisition of Iraq's oil, and the imposition of a puppet government obedient to the Bush administration in place of Saddam Hussein!
May I emphasize that this is opinion pure and simple. If you are in possession of facts which starkly contradict the hypothesis than Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, and maybe even Bush, had no knowledge of it's imminence, nor involvement either, in the 9/11 attack, present it! My opinions are always subject to correction or rebuttal by referenced fact.
I really don't enjoy being as cynical as I am about the Bush/Cheney administration; but as I pointed out elsewhere, I truly feel that they are more than capable of mass murder to further their ends, and probably have been at least complicit to it! I would greatly like to be presented with factual information that shows that there was no knowledge or involvement of any agent of the US government in the events of 9/11! I would like to believe that Bush/Cheney are not as malevolent killers as Hitler and Stalin unquestionably were!
I am currently researching the FDR '30's and '40's era to see if there is any reason for suspecting that FDR knew of Pearl Harbor in advance! I was a child in those days, and the "theory" was taken as common knowledge fact by everyone I remember at that time - his supposed manipulation of the US electorate into acceptance of war involvement being seen as a good thing by my dad, a staunch Republican and war hawk, among many others.
If you know of some recorded history that clearly demonstrates that FDR did not or could not have had advance information as to the attack, please reveal it! It would relieve doubt that I have held all my life regarding one of the greatest presidents in American history!
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 06/19/2008 : 06:06:03 [Permalink]
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bng, when you say:
| As to the 9/11 issue, I honestly do believe that several specific individuals (Cheney is one) at least had excellent foreknowledge of the 9/11 attack. |
Do you mean:
The Bush admin was warned that there were terrorists, Osama BinLaden specifically, who were known to be planning attacks on the US.
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The Bush Admin knew that BinLaden was planning to fly planes into buildings on 9/11.
The first is a matter of public record. We all know they were warned of, and ignored, the threat of an attack. The second takes it into crazy-land though.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2008 : 15:02:37 [Permalink]
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By the way, Radio, here is a link to an article from the JREF about the psychology behind the conspiracy 'theories'.
It is pretty interesting. |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
2437 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2008 : 17:05:03 [Permalink]
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Message to Dude from Crazyland.....
I most definitely and specifically believe that Cheney, at the very least knew that BinLaden was planning to fly planes into buildings on 9/11, did nothing to avert it, and may have helped in the execution of it. Not in specific logistics, but in suppression of intelligence!
May have even helped plan it! May not have informed Bush, feeling he might cave! Probably kept as quiet as he possibly could of the upcoming event. I believe that there certainly were others with awareness, but very, very few! Nothing like a "vast conspiracy"
You can't keep secrets of that magnitude if many people are aware of the secret! Look at the Russian spies that were inside the Manhattan Project!
I would appreciate a visitor here at the Institute. They won't even let me call out! But be careful, if you are known to be communicating with me, a Patriotic Actor will be soon hoisting you by my canard!
Ouch!
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2008 : 18:36:14 [Permalink]
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| What makes you believe that? |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2008 : 19:21:03 [Permalink]
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Simon, Bill seems to have failed to refill his psych-med scripts. Usually he has a better grip on reality.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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RadioMusicBox
New Member
USA
15 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2008 : 20:04:36 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Simon
By the way, Radio, here is a link to an article from the JREF about the psychology behind the conspiracy 'theories'.
It is pretty interesting.
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Wow! That article answered my questions...Totally! Thanx 4 sending it to me. This is great! |
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2008 : 21:08:53 [Permalink]
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Always here to help :p
As for BngBuck, in my limited time on this site; he has sound pretty rational to me so I was wondering how he reached that conclusion.
Is it possible that Cheney knew? Sure.
Did he lie about and exploited the tragedy to further his own goals? Definitively.
Is it out of character ? Not even.
But is there any reason to believe it happened? Not as far as I know.
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Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996 |
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2008 : 10:44:13 [Permalink]
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And here is a link to the episode of Penn and Teller Bullshit! about CC.
Man; I love that show! |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996 |
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RadioMusicBox
New Member
USA
15 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2008 : 16:48:55 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Simon
And here is a link to the episode of Penn and Teller Bullshit! about CC.
Man; I love that show!
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Me too!!! I f-in' love Penn & Teller!!!!! |
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conspiracy theories on...anything - Part 2
