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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 06/20/2008 : 13:36:50
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Let's tax the churchs, then. They've had a free ride for long enough, and this shithead is asking for it. Pastors Challenge Law, Endorse Candidates From Pulpit
Ministers Pit 'Freedom of Expression' vs. 'Separation of Church and State' By RUSSELL GOLDMAN June 20, 2008
RSS Few Americans would invite an investigation by the Internal Revenue Service, but that's exactly what Minnesota pastor Gus Booth wanted when he stood behind his pulpit and told his congregation God wanted them to vote Republican.
(ABC News Photo Illustration)In an election where candidates openly discuss their faith and are regularly seen in churches, and a time when pastors' sermons lead the politics sections of newspapers, one might be excused for not knowing that it is illegal for a church to endorse or oppose a candidate for president.
But when Booth addressed the members of his Warroad Community Church one Sunday in May and told them, "If you are a Christian, you cannot support a candidate like Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton for president," he very much knew he was violating the law. He even wrote a letter to the IRS explaining what he had said and challenging the tax collection agency to do something about it.
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Edited by - filthy on 06/20/2008 13:37:51
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Robb
SFN Regular
USA
1223 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2008 : 14:34:33 [Permalink]
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It would be OK to tax churches. Give to Cesar... These preachers though need to stop. If it agaist the law then they should not be doing it period.
Are nonprofit secular charity organizations taxed? |
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. - George Washington |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2008 : 17:28:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Robb
It would be OK to tax churches. Give to Cesar... These preachers though need to stop. If it agaist the law then they should not be doing it period.
Are nonprofit secular charity organizations taxed? |
To the best of my knowledge, they are not. Then again, they don't endorse political candidates to the public and if they should, then they too, should lose their tax exemptions. Agreed?
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2008 : 18:50:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Let's tax the churchs, then. They've had a free ride for long enough, and this shithead is asking for it. Pastors Challenge Law, Endorse Candidates From Pulpit
Ministers Pit 'Freedom of Expression' vs. 'Separation of Church and State' By RUSSELL GOLDMAN June 20, 2008
RSS Few Americans would invite an investigation by the Internal Revenue Service, but that's exactly what Minnesota pastor Gus Booth wanted when he stood behind his pulpit and told his congregation God wanted them to vote Republican.
(ABC News Photo Illustration)In an election where candidates openly discuss their faith and are regularly seen in churches, and a time when pastors' sermons lead the politics sections of newspapers, one might be excused for not knowing that it is illegal for a church to endorse or oppose a candidate for president.
But when Booth addressed the members of his Warroad Community Church one Sunday in May and told them, "If you are a Christian, you cannot support a candidate like Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton for president," he very much knew he was violating the law. He even wrote a letter to the IRS explaining what he had said and challenging the tax collection agency to do something about it.
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The guy is looking for it.
To me, it seems like the bastard is trying to get himself prosecuted so that he can whine and cry to persecution.
I am ambivalent, I know that the law is the law; but on the other hand, I would hate to play in his hand. |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2008 : 19:11:49 [Permalink]
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Put his dumb ass in jail. If that is what he wants, then do it. If his plan is something stupid like getting prosecuted to make a stir, it will backfire.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong. -- Thomas Jefferson
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 06/20/2008 : 19:20:29 [Permalink]
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According to the article, he (and a whole group) want the IRS to come down hard so they can take the entire 1954 tax law to court (the law that says 501c3 groups cannot endorse politicians). |
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