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Orwellingly Yurz
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Posted - 07/14/2008 :  15:11:11  Show Profile Send Orwellingly Yurz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
YO: An open letter to The New Yorker Magazine following publication of its "Obama fist-knock in the Oval Office" cover:

How classy is The New Yorker after publishing the Obama cover? About as classy as the following sentence:

"What some fuckin' periodicals won't do to sell copies!"

I'm sophisticated enough to not have to be reminded not to read The New Yorker.

Enjoy the First Amendment---while you still have it, Friend-Oh.

Orwellingly Yurz and OY as well.

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Edited by - Orwellingly Yurz on 07/14/2008 15:11:51

filthy
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Posted - 07/14/2008 :  15:39:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ugh. This is not the way to reprimand a publication. But again, they should'a seen it coming.




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bngbuck
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Posted - 07/14/2008 :  18:13:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OY.....

I'm sophisticated enough to not have to be reminded not to read The New Yorker.


OY, you are certainly entitled to any opinion you care to draw from the highly offensive New Yorker cartoon. But as to "not to read the New Yorker" because of one stupid mistake in editorial policy is rather adolescent judgment. I have consistently read the magazine for well over fifty years. It is an excellent, stimulating, humorous, intellectually challenging publication. Although some of each issue's content is local to New York city and it's environs, the magazine is inclusive of much greater interest than merely a parochial focus on Manhattan, the Boroughs, Long Island and environs. It is, and always has been, an excellent microcosm of comment, reportage and opinion on much of what is important in America. It is foolish to dismiss the magazine based only on one idiotic cover.

It may not be your cup of tea - I would think you would have to read a few issues before coming to that conclusion, but even if it turned out that the occasionally encyclopedic level of it's coverage of a great variety of subjects was not to your liking, to condemn the publication out of hand because of one serious mistake is extremely prejudicial and, in my view, unwarranted.
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Mycroft
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Posted - 07/21/2008 :  22:26:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Mycroft a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't understand why you guys find this cartoon offensive. When I look at it, it seems obvious to me that the target of this satire isn't Obama himself, but those on the right who express irrational fear of him.

I mean, c'mon! The fist-bump? The head-gear from that picture the Clinton campaign released? Fears that Michele Obama is a secret radical? The cartoonist couldn't draw Obama not wearing a flag-pin, so he substituted the flag burning in the fireplace instead.

The cartoon doesn't bash Obama, it pokes fun at all the stupid stuff that's been said to tear him down.
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 07/21/2008 :  23:05:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Mycroft

I don't understand why you guys find this cartoon offensive. When I look at it, it seems obvious to me that the target of this satire isn't Obama himself, but those on the right who express irrational fear of him.

I mean, c'mon! The fist-bump? The head-gear from that picture the Clinton campaign released? Fears that Michele Obama is a secret radical? The cartoonist couldn't draw Obama not wearing a flag-pin, so he substituted the flag burning in the fireplace instead.

The cartoon doesn't bash Obama, it pokes fun at all the stupid stuff that's been said to tear him down.

This might be the first time I've ever agreed with you.


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Mycroft
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Posted - 07/21/2008 :  23:38:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Mycroft a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by H. Humbert
Originally posted by Mycroft
I don't understand why you guys find this cartoon offensive. When I look at it, it seems obvious to me that the target of this satire isn't Obama himself, but those on the right who express irrational fear of him.

I mean, c'mon! The fist-bump? The head-gear from that picture the Clinton campaign released? Fears that Michele Obama is a secret radical? The cartoonist couldn't draw Obama not wearing a flag-pin, so he substituted the flag burning in the fireplace instead.

The cartoon doesn't bash Obama, it pokes fun at all the stupid stuff that's been said to tear him down.

This might be the first time I've ever agreed with you.




You will find it gets easier over time. :D
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Mycroft
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Posted - 08/10/2008 :  11:16:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Mycroft a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Am I the only one who sees a parallel between this magazine cover and the recent claim that McCain is suggesting Obama is the anti-Christ? Both are partisans making up an imaginary issue over nothing.
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