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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 08/05/2008 : 12:32:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Hey don't pass off Helen Keller as a goody-two-shoes, she was an enemy of President Wilson and the FBI had a massive file on her activities. And everyone knows if the U.S. government says someone is evil, it must be true.
"This is my country and I love it. I will not see a few excited shouters stampede it into war. War is the particular business of a few men. Some of the ablest press agents of the world are hired to promote preparedness. Peace is everybody's business, and no one attends to it. If we are at peace; we owe it to one man, President Wilson." -HK
Naturally he had to make her into a bad person for opposing our glorius war and supporting the vile concept of civil rights.
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Yes, but neither qualify for the signature, although Keller's close and might make it yet. She is very interesting, but aside from the politics of the era, there was no destructive force.
How 'bout Hurricane Stalin? That might be a good one, as neither Bush nor Cheney seem to show any inclination to do the country the excellent favor of croaking, preferably messily.
Oh wait, neither of them is very interesting, either. It takes more than stupidity & greed to arouse historical interest.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 08/05/2008 : 15:37:05 [Permalink]
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Where do these African-American names come from, anyway? As someone sitting in the southern half of the continent, I parse most of those names as gibberish - except Jamal, that I know is Arabic.
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"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2008 : 17:13:28 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Siberia
Where do these African-American names come from, anyway? As someone sitting in the southern half of the continent, I parse most of those names as gibberish - except Jamal, that I know is Arabic.
I do like Hurricane Khan. Has a flair to it.
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Back in the day, black babies were often named by the doctor that delivered them. When I was a boy, I knew a lady named "Donamer." Beyond that, I couldn't say.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
4955 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2008 : 05:38:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Siberia
Where do these African-American names come from, anyway? As someone sitting in the southern half of the continent, I parse most of those names as gibberish - except Jamal, that I know is Arabic.
I do like Hurricane Khan. Has a flair to it.
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According to this site:| Dinwiddie-Boyd identifies three ways that African-Americans choose names: taking traditional European names and changing their spelling and/or pronunciation to make them more distinctive; creating unique names that did not exist before; and using actual African names to reflect their cultural heritage. |
I can't say whether or not actual data bear this out, but anecdotally, it seems to be true. |
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Coat Of Arms
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 08/06/2008 : 16:57:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Siberia[/i]
Where [i]do[/i] these African-American names come from, anyway? As someone sitting in the southern half of the continent, I parse most of those names as gibberish - except Jamal, that I know is Arabic. |
I think it's fair to say Sheila Jackson Lee has no idea.
She is the mother of Erica Shelwyn, 20, and Jason Cornelius Bennett Lee, 14.
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 08/06/2008 : 19:31:23 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Coat Of Arms
Originally posted by Siberia[/i]
Where [i]do[/i] these African-American names come from, anyway? As someone sitting in the southern half of the continent, I parse most of those names as gibberish - except Jamal, that I know is Arabic. |
I think it's fair to say Sheila Jackson Lee has no idea.
She is the mother of Erica Shelwyn, 20, and Jason Cornelius Bennett Lee, 14. |
But wasn't Cornelius Bennett a former linebacker for the Bills? Does she have a connection to him? Or is this the same as me naming my kid "Joe Troy Aikman Schmo" [allowing for the fact that my last name isn't 'Schmo']? |
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chaloobi
SFN Regular
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 06:42:37 [Permalink]
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They should name the hurricanes after Japanese movie monsters. Hurricane Mechagodzilla anyone? Huricane Mothra? Then some lucky folks would be able to say "Yes, my home town was flattened by Godzilla."  |
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 18:59:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by chaloobi
They should name the hurricanes after Japanese movie monsters. Hurricane Mechagodzilla anyone? Huricane Mothra? Then some lucky folks would be able to say "Yes, my home town was flattened by Godzilla."
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I totally second that notion.
And thanks for the link, Cune: as I thought, mostly gibberish, it seems, according to the woman. Ah well. |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 21:12:49 [Permalink]
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Chaloobi.....
I like Mothrafucker and Goddamozilla. Descriptive, and it introduces a much-needed sprinkling of shocking, banned, and nasty words into Government bureaucracy! |
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chaloobi
SFN Regular
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Posted - 08/11/2008 : 08:11:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bngbuck
Chaloobi.....
I like Mothrafucker and Goddamozilla. Descriptive, and it introduces a much-needed sprinkling of shocking, banned, and nasty words into Government bureaucracy!
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No no NO! Think of the children, will you!  |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 08/11/2008 : 19:36:59 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
From Cune's first link:Since 1953, Atlantic tropical storms have been named from lists originated by the National Hurricane Center. They are now maintained and updated by an international committee of the World Meteorological Organization. Good luck passing U.S. legislation to unilaterally change the names. 
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If memory serves, the storms are named based on the majority populations in their path. From 1953 times.
Since these are North Atlantic storms, they would have primarily Spanish or English sounding names.
And does the Black Community really want to be associated with a massively destructive event such as a Hurricane.
Ask the folks who have names that have been retired.
If you look at the naming conventions of Western Pacific Typhoons, you will notice that there are no English sounding names what so ever.
We won't talk about Australia. They make my head hurt.
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Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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