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Orwellingly Yurz
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Posted - 08/20/2008 :  20:15:55  Show Profile Send Orwellingly Yurz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
YO:

Why would Russia invade Georgia, we ask? The question would be more accurate by saying, why not?

For nearly 8 years, the United States has been rent asunder, as they say, with the divisive politics of the Bush Administration. There now seems to be little middle-ground thinking going on. Clearly, there's been no thinking, whatsoever, going on in the Bush Administration.

Where to begin? Well, let's start with 9/11. He ignored Clinton's warnings. Then there's Iraq. He lied to get us in there; oil, oil oil. How 'bout North Korea? That became more of a muck-up after Bush took office. Is it necessary to mention the fumbling going on with Iran, Syria, Pakistan and Afghanistan? I suppose the general bellicose demeanor of the Bush Administration in the White House, Cheney's office, at the U.N. and the myriad scandals connected with the Bush Bunch play to a lesser degree to separate the U.S. from its partners and especially those who are not so sure what their relationship to America should be. Torture, the loss of habeas corpus and expanding laissez-faire domestic government surveillance have helped fracture the nation, as well.

So split is our nation, Russia---that latent imperialistic/totalitarian Bear---would be stupid not to invade Georgia, especially after big oil deals have been consummated recently (enough for Iraq, with it budget surplus, to suddenly want us out) and the petroleum surging through a Georgian pipeline from the Caspian Sea to the Black Sea.

Two more things to ponder: the Bush Administration has been long derelict in its relations with Russia and has
been working on signing a missile-defense system to be planted in Poland (signed today). The other consideration are reports that the Georgian president has been egged-on by Bush neocons to act jingoistic toward Russia. I don't see Bush ordering immediate backup for the Georgian military while Russia kicks butt. Hmmm...leaving them in the lurch, but getting a redbait scam resurrected for the presidential campaign since the economy and healthcare are sucking the blood out of the U.S. Maybe Karl Rove can immaculately resurrect Senator Joseph McCarthy between now and November 4th.

Yes, Russia has a terrible history of aggression and, worst of all, totalitarianism. Czechoslovakia is still vivid in my mind. So with all the blatant incompetence of the Bushites, why wouldn't the Ruskies be up to their old tricks; many of the same tricks to which the world has been more recently "treated" by the bush league thinking and philosophy
of the current U.S. Executive Branch?

Can we get our act together with more of the mcsame in 2009? OY!

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bngbuck
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Posted - 08/20/2008 :  21:30:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OY.....

Can we get our act together with more of the mcsame in 2009? OY!
From the most recent polls, it looks like McSame is getting a better grip on the balls of America by the minute! Much more Russian adventurism between now and November, and it's going to be HEEEEEERE'S JOHNNY on November 8th!

Never, NEVER, NEVER underestimate the stupidity of the American Electorate!
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Chippewa
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Posted - 08/21/2008 :  01:02:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Randall Scheunemann, McSame's Chief Foreign Policy Adviser was also the lobbyist for Georgia for four years including his time on McSame's 2007 campaign staff. Scheunemann met with Georgia's president, Saakashvili and encouraged him. So there is a McSame-Georgia-Russia connection in that the Russian invasion is being co-opted as political leverage for McSame's false public impression of "leadership" via his strong criticisms of Russia. In reality both Bush and McSame know nothing and care nothing about the long standing Russia-Georgian animosity going back hundreds of years and politically the USA can do nothing about it. Our military, even if involved in some kind of UN international peace keeping or policing action (highly unlikely) has been stretched thin by the war and our credibility as a moral leader in the world is gravely weakened by 8 years of Bush.
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