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Dave W.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 08/25/2008 : 22:02:48 [Permalink]
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You guys are gluttons for punishment.
Seriously.
That guys has been beaten near to death with the stupid-stick, and you are "debating" him.
Takes more intestinal fortitude than I have!
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Simon
SFN Regular
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Posted - 08/26/2008 : 07:25:08 [Permalink]
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| Dunno about the stupid, but he seems to have received an healthy dose of the 'I am too arrogant to even consider I might be wrong and to consider the other side's arguments' stick. |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996 |
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Dave W.
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Simon
SFN Regular
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1992 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2008 : 08:24:16 [Permalink]
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| Good job Dave, I must say. |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996 |
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the_ignored
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Posted - 08/27/2008 : 08:14:07 [Permalink]
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Great. It looks like he's trying to lie about what my question to him was so he can claim that he did answer it after all.
This is my reply to that |
>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 08/27/2008 : 08:35:12 [Permalink]
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Dave, his very last reply still leaves evolution as the best explanation for the diversity of life. It also leaves it as a theory which he was arguing against, I think.
The point is many transitional forms did fossilize and were found in the proper strata, which supports the theory. Gaps yet to be filled do not falsify it. It's true that some speciation gaps will probably always exist. But really, that is a bit of a so what, given the number transitionals that do exist.
Basically, you win...
I doubt if he can make his mouth or the words he types on a page admit that. But I don't see how anyone reading the debate can come to another conclusion. |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
Genetic Literacy Project |
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Dave W.
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the_ignored
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Posted - 08/30/2008 : 14:14:11 [Permalink]
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| Well, slightly off topic, but me and some other guys are engaging the owner of the blog that Pvlbivs and I were arguing on in the first place (not Pvlbiv's own blog like Dave is doing). |
>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 08/30/2008 : 15:36:20 [Permalink]
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Evidently, I am not appreciated there, as my donation to reason has yet to appear. Oh well, one more amongst many.
And besides, at this point, anything I might come up with would be redundant, so it's small enough loss.
Hey Dave, thanks for the Devonian Bunny mention. I didn't come up with that legendary lagomorph, but have adopted it for my own, anyway. 
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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Dave W.
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the_ignored
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Posted - 08/30/2008 : 17:52:28 [Permalink]
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| Good grief, is this guy dumb. I've replied to him here. You'll see what I mean. |
>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Dave W.
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the_ignored
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Posted - 09/02/2008 : 01:35:42 [Permalink]
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Thanks. Well, for the hell of it, it looks like he's added plate tectonics to the list.
Zilch:
Even though I suspect you were hoping I wouldn't see your question. I am skeptical of the large-scale movements. I have to be. People can make their best guesses for what the pattern of the Earth used to be. But there is no way to test them. The data that one would use to "test" a pattern are the same data used to construct the pattern. Of course, there is nothing that depends on the estimations of the large-scale movements being correct. |
He gets smacked down right quick for that. It's ironic: He's no more religious than any of us are. Just look at his comments in that post.
Even atheists can have gaps in their reasoning processes too.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
| Edited by - the_ignored on 09/02/2008 09:44:51 |
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Scientists shielding the theory of evolution?!
