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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 10/18/2008 :  13:07:20  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Their apologetics are just so stupid! I mean, it's like a Gong Show rerun over there. Here's a sample:
1. NSF: “Details of Evolutionary Transition from Fish to Land Animals Revealed”
The supposed missing link Tiktaalik is back in the news again, rearing its ugly “evolutionary” head on the supposed transitional element of a mobile neck.

A new study published in Nature takes a look at skeletal features other than the fish's fins, which have previously been the centerpiece for claims that it was evolving into a land dweller. Specifically, the new study looks at the specimen's internal head skeleton.
Being incapable of grokking Nature's article, possibly due to Bibiocal brain damage, and after a little floundering around (pun unintended but kind'a neat) they jump back to the old tried & true Coelacanth splutter. They know that one works because it's made fools of them before:
Don't believe us? We've heard the story before, with coelacanths, a fish once known only from the fossil record. The lobed fins on the fossil specimens fueled evolutionary claims that it walked on the ocean floor and evolved into a land-walking tetrapod.

Imagine evolutionists' surprise when, in 1938, a live coelacanth was found swimming—not walking!—in the ocean off the African coast. Apparently the coelacanth was unaware that it was supposed to have been a transitional form extinct for 65 million years! More have been found in recent years, and the lobed fins are clearly used just to help the fish swim.
Remarkable, no? Read on, this week's News to Note is a comic wonderment.




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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2008 :  15:46:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Can you even imagine the kind of freemasonry and secret handshakes that would be required for scientists to maintain the kind of fraud that AiG claims? Tens, hundreds of thousands of scientists, marching in lockstep to promote an "evilutionist" myth? Even with the handful of conspirators involved in Nixon's Watergate crimes, there was one of them who broke down and told the truth.

How do the evilutionists maintain such security? And what's the payoff for such an elaborate "hoax"?


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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the_ignored
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2562 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2008 :  06:55:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, you're going to love Top Ten Evolutionary Myths.

Nice thing, each section has links to more of their bs. That article of theirs is a collection of the main YEC claims about evolution. It would make it easier to rebut.

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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the_ignored
SFN Addict

2562 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2008 :  09:57:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
More AIG fun, from Happy Jihad's House of Pancakes.




>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2008 :  11:19:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by the_ignored

More AIG fun, from Happy Jihad's House of Pancakes.




Well, unlike Kent Hovind, I don't think Ken Ham is technically retarded, nor a moron. I think his arguments are both retarded and moronic, but he's clearly a brilliant and successful con artist and leader of the intellectually challenged.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Hawks
SFN Regular

Canada
1383 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2008 :  11:30:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Hawks's Homepage Send Hawks a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And Ham has to repeat the usual tripe about wanting oral debates so that people can "make up their own minds" while also asking "what is he afraid of?" since Phelps refuses. I have no idea whether or not Phelps is afraid of such a debate, but that is totally irrelevant since the only thing these debates are good for is to sway uninformed people's opinions rather than settling the underlying scientific questions. They should be asking for written debates but that is obviously too much too ask.

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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26022 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2008 :  13:01:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A part of Bing's post is so beautiful I have to copy it here:
…Let’s look at the claims that you [Ken Ham] have made and see if they warrant a serious geologist’s attention:

You said that unicorns are real. You claim that the Beowulf story is evidence of human cohabitation with dinosaurs. You say that sometimes religious genocide is OK. You think that the government is training people to talk to aliens. You believe that evolution is a random process, a process of blind chance, which is just factually wrong. You target children because they can’t defend themselves and trust you (talk about a cowardly act). You believe if a 2-year old understands it, it must be cutting edge science. You believe that observation and measurement cannot trump “common sense.” You believe you do the type of science that you need “faith” to understand instead of, you know, “understanding” to understand. You believe… whatever the fuck this is. You employ the nanny-nanny boo-boo defense. Your ilk does not even try to publish outside of its little circle, and you set up a bogus journal to pretend that you were scholars, THEREBY AVOIDING THE DEBATE YOU CLAIM TO CRAVE. You stare at evolution, describe evolution, and then say, “It’s not evolution.”

And yet you wonder why someone with an education and responsibilities and a reputation would not talk to you? Despite this record of shame (I could have gone on and on just looking at my website alone), you have the balls to claim that you won something by being so catastrophically ignorant as to be not worth speaking to?

KEN, WE ARE TIRED OF TRYING TO TALK TO YOU. WE HAVE MOVED ON TO RIDICULE. THIS IS WHAT YOU DESERVE, YOU PIG-IGNORANT SLAVE.

Thank you.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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