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the_ignored
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Posted - 10/19/2008 :  08:22:02  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To at least a small extent, it appears to be true.


"I wouldn't want a mixed marriage for my daughter, but I'm voting for Obama," the wife of a retired Virginia coal miner, Sharon Fleming, told the Los Angeles Times recently.


Why? Because many of them are more concerned about the economy than they are about race, apparently.

"The economy is trumping racism," said Kurt Schmoke, the dean of Howard University Law School and a former Baltimore mayor. "A lot of people who we might think wouldn't vote their pocketbook because of race - now they are."


Still, even on a small scale, it's weird eh? Politics/economics does make strange bedfellows.


>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

Edited by - the_ignored on 10/19/2008 08:24:06

HalfMooner
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Posted - 10/19/2008 :  23:01:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I suppose even some racists might be capable of placing major global issues and economic crises ahead of race. Can't say I know what's going through their heads, but it might be analogous to my willingness to support a Christian who is running for President, so long as that doesn't get in the way of his or her work.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 10/19/2008 23:02:30
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the_ignored
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Posted - 10/29/2008 :  08:27:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It turns out that there may be another reason that racists may want Obama to win.


>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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Kil
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USA
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Posted - 10/29/2008 :  09:05:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Speaking of bigots, has anyone noticed that Ann Coulter has been missing from the ranks of television pundits?

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Simon
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USA
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Posted - 10/29/2008 :  09:33:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ann Coulter; I think, is completely discredited now as a journalist.

People see her as what she is; a political ignoramus with no worthwile opinion to contribute, just a string of statement designed purely for shock value.
Good riddance.


As for Obama's election inducing a backlash; if he is elected; it is probably going to be true, on a limited scale and for a limited time. It has been true for every advance in civil rights thus far.
But, soon enough, the tumult will calm down, meanwhile, a wall will have fallen and Obama will have demonstrated that blacks can be as good (or as bad) as any white president. Next time a black candidate is posing his candidature it will not be so big a deal.

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996
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Gorgo
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USA
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Posted - 10/29/2008 :  09:36:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

Speaking of bigots, has anyone noticed that Ann Coulter has been missing from the ranks of television pundits?


I don't usually watch the shows she would be on, but her website says she'll be on Fox's Neil Cavuto show today, 10/29/08.

I have seen David Horowitz on some stupid Fox thing that showed all the shadowy associations Obama has with terrorists and such, so maybe they take turns.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 10/29/2008 :  09:49:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote

People see her as what she is; a political ignoramus with no worthwile opinion to contribute, just a string of statement designed purely for shock value.
Good riddance.


If people were that educated and intelligent, George Bush wouldn't be in office, and we certainly wouldn't be considering John McCain or Sarah Palin for any serious employment.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
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Kil
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USA
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Posted - 10/29/2008 :  11:00:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Gorgo

Originally posted by Kil

Speaking of bigots, has anyone noticed that Ann Coulter has been missing from the ranks of television pundits?


I don't usually watch the shows she would be on, but her website says she'll be on Fox's Neil Cavuto show today, 10/29/08.

I have seen David Horowitz on some stupid Fox thing that showed all the shadowy associations Obama has with terrorists and such, so maybe they take turns.
Gee. I wonder if Horowitz will talk about his associations from when he was younger.
…His parents were long-standing members of the Communist Party. While still identifying as a Marxist, Horowitz, like many other left wing figures of his generation, sought to distance himself from the Soviet Union.[citation needed] In the 1960s he was employed as a political aide to Bertrand Russell.[2] At this time, Horowitz was a close friend and associate of Marxist historian Isaac Deutscher. Horowitz wrote a biography of Deutscher in 1971.[3]

After returning to the US in 1968, Horowitz wrote several books that were influential in New Left critiques of American society and particularly its foreign policy, including The Free World Colossus: A Critique of American Foreign Policy in the Cold War. Horowitz was an editor at the influential New Left magazine, Ramparts.

Horowitz was a confidant of Black Panthers leader Huey P. Newton, and provided legal and financial assistance to the black revolutionary organization…


Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Gorgo
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USA
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Posted - 10/29/2008 :  11:04:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Somehow David's past gives him credibility. Or so he thinks.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



Edited by - Gorgo on 10/29/2008 11:08:22
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 10/29/2008 :  11:11:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Gorgo

Somehow David's past gives him credibility.
But the thing is, he was a blowhard then and he is a blowhard now. Nothing has really changed in him. He is still in love with his own voice.

He likes to portray his shift from the left as some kind of intellectual awakening. And then he has conversations with Rush. David Horowitz was and will always be a wannabe intellectual, no matter what side he is on...

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Gorgo
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Posted - 10/29/2008 :  11:29:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
David Horowitz was and will always be a wannabe intellectual, no matter what side he is on...


I don't think he even wants to be an intellectual. He just wants to continue getting rich selling snake oil.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



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