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Gorgo
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Posted - 11/11/2008 :  07:34:13  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
American Humanist Association to announce its "Godless Holiday Campaign" on Tuesday.

WASHINGTON, DC (WUSA) --
9NEWS NOW has confirmed the wording of a new bus ad that is expected to be controversial. The American Humanist Association, located in Washington, will announce its "Godless Holiday Campaign" on Tuesday with ads on Metro buses and in newspapers. The slogan for the campaign is "Why Believe In a God? Just Be Good for Goodness Sakes".

The campaign coincides with bus ads by the British Humanist Association. The British ad reads, "There's Probably No God. Now Stop Worrying and Enjoy Your Life."


Pretty good, but is 'Sakes' grammatically correct? Isn't 'Goodness' singular and 'Sakes' plural?

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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/11/2008 :  09:03:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think it's worse than that, because "Goodness" should also be possessive. In other words, it should be:
Why Believe In a God? Just Be Good for Goodness' Sake.

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Gorgo
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Posted - 11/11/2008 :  09:12:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think you're correct, but I didn't bring that up as I think there is some support for not using an apostrophe.

In idiomatic expressions similar to for heavens' sake (also for heaven's sake or for heavens sake) wherein the modifier—goodness', mercy's, righteousness', or the like—ends in one of the sounds of the letter s, use an apostrophe or not, as you wish. 1


The Columbia Guide to Standard American English. Copyright © 1993 Columbia University Press.


I think it's probably one of those instances of misheard lyrics from the Christmas song, "Santa Claus is Coming To Town."

Maybe we can get a bus that says, "scuse me, while I kiss this guy."

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Posted - 11/11/2008 :  10:22:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like it.

Of course, the Religious Right will hate it vocally but, hopefully, it will reveal them as the hypocritical assholes they are to the general public; always talking about good and moral but really only interested in bringing defenceless victims to their own version of their cult.

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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Posted - 11/11/2008 :  11:08:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Gorgo

I think you're correct, but I didn't bring that up as I think there is some support for not using an apostrophe.
Sure, from those godless liberals at a university. They're making a mockery of the moral grounding we all have for the proper use of right single-quote marks.

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Gorgo
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Posted - 11/11/2008 :  12:37:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Evidently the newspeople didn't go to Columbia, but maybe the Humanists did:

http://www.americanhumanist.org/press/BusAds.php
"Why believe in a god? Just be good for goodness' sake," proclaims a new holiday ad from the American Humanist Association. Already appearing today in the New York Times and Washington Post, the message will soon be blazoned on the sides, taillights, and interiors of over 200 Washington DC Metro buses.

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Gorgo
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Posted - 11/11/2008 :  12:40:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.whybelieveinagod.org/print/bus_side.pdf for a picture.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/11/2008 :  17:15:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yup, they nailed it on the ad itself:



Either Dave Statter screwed up his own article, or an editor tried to "fix" it.

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The Rat
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Posted - 11/11/2008 :  19:13:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by Gorgo

I think you're correct, but I didn't bring that up as I think there is some support for not using an apostrophe.
Sure, from those godless liberals at a university. They're making a mockery of the moral grounding we all have for the proper use of right single-quote marks.


Sure, and now they're forcing their beliefs on us! Can we get a proposition on the next ballot?

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bngbuck
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Posted - 11/12/2008 :  01:07:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Goodness sakes, you people! Don't you know a colloquialism when you hear one? For crissake(s), anything goes when you're mangling the language anyway! Heavensake, Our Sarah could set you straight on this, you betcha!
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Posted - 11/14/2008 :  05:12:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bill Donohue's reaction (remember him?) to the atheistic messages was rather predictable, but perhaps not in just how far over-the-top he went. He's brought the definition of "terrorist" to a new low standard, and he seems to agree with marketing departments around the world that Christmas begins in early November.

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moakley
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Posted - 11/14/2008 :  05:46:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Bill Donohue's reaction
Bill's reaction seemed more like a stump speech. A few words changed to fit the current topic. Besides why target such ads around a muslim holiday, Bill clearly stated that this is a Christian nation founded on Judeo-Christian values.

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Posted - 11/14/2008 :  08:58:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bill Donohue looks like Tweety Pie. "Ohhhhh... I tawt I taw an ateist..."

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