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the_ignored
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 Posted - 11/12/2008 : 03:21:39
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He quotes a post of mine, only guess what part he leaves out?
| Wendell Bird is a creationist, so it's no wonder he'd say that. It's not like he'd be an objective view. Remember, any member of any creationist group has to take an oath promising to never deviate from their doctrine before they are even allowed to join up, much less do any research in their groups. |
Yep, he leaves out the bolded part. To top it off, he's put the misquoted part of what I said in his "funny quotes" off to the side.
Dan +#8224;+ said...
Reynold,
"[He] is a creationist, so it's no wonder he'd say that. It's not like he'd be an objective view."
So let me get this straight, if they are evolutionists then they will give an "objective view?"
Mwahahahhahahah
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I tried giving him hell for it.
Wonder if it'll sink in...Geez, they'll even misquote you while they're debating you!
Are guys like this totally shameless, or just really effing stupid?
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 11/12/2008 : 04:52:50 [Permalink]
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Lessee, quote mining, quote mining.... ah, here it is; #3 on the Common Fundie Argument list, right after Straw-Man & Red Herring:
"The Logical Fallacy of Quote Mining is commonly used when the Challenged Fundamentalist has run out of Argument, or has been Refuted in his Arguments. All he has to fall back upon is the Statements of others, either Modified, left Incomplete, or Quoted out of Context. Quote Mining is also used extensively in various Religious Tracts as published by those Organizations that have no Argument supportable by any Physical Evidence. Thus, it is a Blatant Dishonesty easy for the Skeptic to Refute simply by being familiar with the Quote in Question, and calling them on it with Appropriate Accusations of Intellectual Knavery."
There; let's see 'em mine that'n! Feel free to use it if you wish. It might be fun, especally if you invite your friend in here to explain himself. 
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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the_ignored
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Posted - 11/12/2008 : 10:55:46 [Permalink]
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No, pointing a quote mine out to them doesn't always help. Observe.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 11/12/2008 : 12:11:52 [Permalink]
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Oh, Creationist tunnel vision and dishonesty is an affliction that can seldom be over come. I'd not go on record, but I'm beginning to think that it's genetic. Or perhaps acquired like syphilis from other Creationists. You are doing exactly right in that you are letting this Dan fellow dig his own hole. He won't even notice when he falls into it, but you'll get a good laugh, and that's what it's all about. Laugh long, loud & publicly, and maybe others will join in.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2008 : 17:26:01 [Permalink]
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One thing I noticed is that creationists just do not have the ability to understand (due to a lack of scientific literacy; interest and persistance; and pure lack of neurons) many of the arguments exposed to them.
As such, they do not realize that they are quote mining or how quote mining is an insulting violation of the other guys' speech.
For example, a couple of weeks ago, an astrophysicist acquaintances of mine was talking about the LHC ('it should be OK; of course, it is possible that we don't know what we are doing').
Of ocurse, the creationist immediately got an hard-on and used it first thing when they started disagreeing. After all, astrophysicist themselves admit they don't know what they are talking about so, obviously, creationists are right... |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996 |
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the_ignored
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Posted - 11/15/2008 : 08:44:03 [Permalink]
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My last post on his blog. Why do I say last? He's threatened to "rebuke" me because I had posted "blasphemous articles" when I linked to some of ERV's posts about junkDNA.
I wound up tearing into him in my last reply. Naturally, I've saved the HTML for that page just so's it doesn't get lost.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2008 : 09:32:07 [Permalink]
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what... WHAT? Junk DNA is blasphemous?
So, yeah, numerous function have been discovered for genes that once belonged to the junk DNA family. Big woop (as far as ID is concerned, it means that junk DNA do not represent 97% of our genome, just more than 80%).
And, among those, a good portion have had its origin also identified... as being junk. Endogenous retrovirus; transposons and such... |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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the_ignored
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Posted - 11/15/2008 : 09:59:13 [Permalink]
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What Dan is referring to is the tone of Abby's posts, I believe.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
 Posted - 11/15/2008 : 17:52:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by the_ignored
What Dan is referring to is the tone of Abby's posts, I believe.
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It's a f***ing stupid excuse, but it gives him the opportunity to bail out of having to read it. And that, my friends, is the Masterfully crafted Plan on how to stay ignorant, sheltered within his fantacy world.
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Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
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Debunking Atheists’ Dan: more stupidity
