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perrodetokio
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Posted - 12/22/2008 :  07:09:16  Show Profile Send perrodetokio a Private Message  Reply with Quote
NASA's five THEMIS spacecraft have discovered a breach in Earth's magnetic field ten times larger than anything previously thought to exist. Solar wind can flow in through the opening to "load up" the magnetosphere for powerful geomagnetic storms. But the breach itself is not the biggest surprise. Researchers are even more amazed at the strange and unexpected way it forms, overturning long-held ideas of space physics.

Source and more info

Since I am not that educated in science I wanted to know what you all make of this, which to me (and my ignorance) sounds big.

Also: Is this the right folder to place this? Since there is only a "pseudoscience" folder and not a "science" one, I thought this astronomy folder was more appropriate. Would you move it if itīs not?

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Edited by - perrodetokio on 12/22/2008 07:21:33

Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 12/22/2008 :  07:44:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by perrodetokio
Also: Is this the right folder to place this? Since there is only a "pseudoscience" folder and not a "science" one, I thought this astronomy folder was more appropriate.

This is indeed the appropriate folder.

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Posted - 12/22/2008 :  08:33:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This belongs in the Geomagnetic Dynamo folder.

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Kil
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Posted - 12/22/2008 :  09:51:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I watched a show on the magnetosphere just a few days ago, but I can't find it online. (It would have helped if I had taken note of what channel presented it. I looked over at the Nova site but couldn't find it.) At any rate, some scientists are wondering if this dangerous thinning of the field over the equator may be the beginning of a magnetic field reversal.

Magnetic field reversals

Based upon the study of lava flows of basalt throughout the world, it has been proposed that the Earth's magnetic field reverses at intervals, ranging from tens of thousands to many millions of years, with an average interval of approximately 250,000 years. The last such event, called the Brunhes-Matuyama reversal, is theorized to have occurred some 780,000 years ago.


Even if not, this weakening of the field could present real dangers to satellites, astronauts and if it weakens enough, serous problems with all kinds of things that depend on electronics to function, as well as life in the effected regions here on earth due to the increased levels of radiation from the sun making it through the natural barrier of the earths magnetosphere.

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Posted - 12/22/2008 :  13:04:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

I watched a show on the magnetosphere just a few days ago, but I can't find it online. (It would have helped if I had taken note of what channel presented it. I looked over at the Nova site but couldn't find it.) At any rate, some scientists are wondering if this dangerous thinning of the field over the equator may be the beginning of a magnetic field reversal.

Magnetic field reversals

Based upon the study of lava flows of basalt throughout the world, it has been proposed that the Earth's magnetic field reverses at intervals, ranging from tens of thousands to many millions of years, with an average interval of approximately 250,000 years. The last such event, called the Brunhes-Matuyama reversal, is theorized to have occurred some 780,000 years ago.


Even if not, this weakening of the field could present real dangers to satellites, astronauts and if it weakens enough, serous problems with all kinds of things that depend on electronics to function, as well as life in the effected regions here on earth due to the increased levels of radiation from the sun making it through the natural barrier of the earths magnetosphere.
But the good news: This deadly global cataclysm is not man-made, right? Woo-hoo! Not our fault!


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UniConst
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Posted - 12/22/2008 :  13:30:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send UniConst a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I watched a show on the magnetosphere just a few days ago, but I can't find it online.

Kil:Saw it too. Unless mistaken,think that twas on the Discovery channel.

If it does happen, think that we most-all will be 'goners'. As in "kaputski" or "terminada".

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H. Humbert
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Posted - 12/22/2008 :  13:40:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by UniConst

I watched a show on the magnetosphere just a few days ago, but I can't find it online.

Kil:Saw it too. Unless mistaken,think that twas on the Discovery channel.

If it does happen, think that we most-all will be 'goners'. As in "kaputski" or "terminada".
I saw it as well. Damn, what was that show called? I even looked it up on IMDB. It had a sort of generic title, like "Real Science" or something similar. Each episode of the show focuses on one way the world might end, from global warming to an asteroid impact to the disappearance of the magnetic field. It was quite good, if slightly sensationalistic. I think they could have stressed the fact that no mass extinctions have ever been conclusively shown to coincide with a magnetic field reversal. In fact, early man lived through several, apparently without any ill effect. Of course, also without a dependence on modern electronics.


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