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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 12/24/2008 :  12:53:17  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hitler's philosophies are alive and well in Maricopa County, AZ.
I'm spending my Christmas vacation in lovely Maricopa County, AZ, this week with my in-laws. And I have to tell you that, thanks to Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his gang of thugs deputies, I'll be somewhat relieved when I leave.

After all, how would you like to live in a place where law enforcement actually arrests you for applauding briefly at a public county council meeting? Where they threaten and intimidate you just for showing up in the first place?

That's what's been happening here.

It all has to do with an anti-Arpaio group called Maricopa Citizens for Safety Accountability, which formed last spring in response to investigative reports and studies demonstrating that Arpaio's insane obsession with illegal immigrants was destroying his office's ability to actually deal with real law enforcement work.

MCSA's members have been turning up at meetings of the county Board of Supervisors and trying to speak, but the board refuses to let MCSA do so except for brief comment periods at the end of its meetings. Moreover, the board meetings are now patrolled by a huge contingent of deputies who treat the citizens who attend like criminals.

Last week, they went even further:

Did you ever notice that when they get repressive, it's usually if not always in the name of "public safety?" It worked for Hitler, it worked for Bush, and now it seems to be working for these assholes.




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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 12/24/2008 :  19:20:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Arizona has a long and ugly history of racism towards Hispanics and Native Americans, and a tradition of Sheriffs setting themselves above the law.

Back in the 1940's, the Sheriff in Arizona's Cochise County had a policy of his deputies beating up every Mexican illegal immigrant they found. My uncle spoke fluent Spanish and had good friends among the Hispanics of Arizona. He heard about this, and was outraged. Fortunately, he was an Arizona State Senator. Though that county wasn't his district, he went to Cochise and had a private meeting with the Sheriff. He told the Sheriff what would happen to him if a single additional "wetback" was beaten. He must have been convincing, because the beatings stopped at once.

The FBI needs to look into Maricopa County and shut down this fascist prick Joe Arpaio, who acclaims himself "America's toughest Sheriff."


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Edited by - HalfMooner on 12/24/2008 19:47:27
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 12/24/2008 :  19:38:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Damn. Ya know, I used to be a fan of Sherrif Joe.

The guy painted his jailhouse PINK! He set up a summer "tent city" prison oout in the desert, on some county land, and ran it by the US Army field manual for temporary encampments. i.e. minimal ammenities. Pit latrines, no AC, etc. He fed his prisoners on day old bread and other foodstuff that was nearing expiration (but still safe to eat).

He had a very low recidivism rate for petty crimes in his county.


Sad to see that he's turned into this.


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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 12/24/2008 :  19:53:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe his recidivism is so low simply because his office is too busy rounding up "illegals" to enforce the law.

Edited to add a quote from Wiki indicating there is no reduction of recidivism under Arpaio:
In her book on prison policy The Use of Force by Detention Officers, Arizona State University criminal justice professor Marie L. Griffin reported on a 1998 study commissioned by Arpaio to examine recidivism rates based on conditions of confinement. Comparing recidivism rates under Arpaio to those under his predecessor, the study found "there was no significant difference in recidivism observed between those offenders released in 1989-1990 and those released in 1994-1995."
Also, Wiki mentions these chilling attacks upon free speech by Arpaio and his thugs:
In October 2007, Arpaio's deputies arrested Village Voice Media executives and Phoenix New Times editors Michael Lacey and Jim Larkin on charges of revealing grand jury secrets. In July 2004, the New Times had published Arpaio's home address in the context of a story about his real estate dealings, which the county attorney's office is investigating as a possible crime under Arizona state law. A special prosecutor served Village Voice Media with a subpoena ordering it to produce "all documents" related to the original real estate article, as well as "all Internet web site traffic information" to a number of articles that mentioned Arpaio. The prosecutor further ordered Village Voice Media to produce the IP addresses of all visitors to the Phoenix New Times website since January 1, 2004, as well as what websites those readers had been to prior to visiting. As an act of "civil disobedience,"[65] Lacey and Larkin published the contents of the subpoena on or around October 18, which resulted in their arrests the same day.[66] On the following day, the county attorney dropped the case after declining to pursue charges against the two.[67] The Attorney General's office has since been ordered to appear before Judge Ana Baca due to missing documentation - including the original grand jury subpoenas - in the case file for the investigation of the New Times publication.[68]

On November 28, 2007, Judge Baca ruled that the subpoenas in this case were not validly issued. The special prosecutor filed the grand jury subpoenas without the consent of the grand jury. Baca's justification was a statute that had been clarified by case law and by subsequent legislation to bar such subpoena authority, unless certain reporting requirements are met. The prosecutor had not met those reporting requirements.[69] In April, 2008, the New Times editors filed suit against Arpaio, County Attorney Andrew Thomas and Special Prosecutor Dennis Wilenchik, alleging negligence, conspiracy and racketeering, and State and U.S. constitutional violations of free speech rights, false imprisonment, retaliation by law enforcement and abuse of process.[70]

[edit] Alleged harassment of New Times reporter

On June 11, 2008, Ray Stern, a reporter for the Phoenix New Times, was surrounded and intimidated by several deputies while trying to examine public records at the City of Phoenix public records counter.[71] Stern called City Attorney Gary Verburg, who came down and instructed the deputies that Stern had the right to view the records. The deputies then threatened to simply arrest Stern on the spot. Later, a city "conflict resolution manager" walked up and laid down an Arizona law book. She pointed to the section of public records law that essentially says anyone can look at any public record during business hours. City Attorney Verburg told the deputies again that Stern had the right to look at any public record. Upon hearing that, the deputies warned Stern again that if he tried to look at the documents he would be arrested.[72]

The events reported by the New Times are substantively verified in a memo drafted by Maricopa County Sheriff's Office Commander James Miller. In this memo, Miller states that the deputies did threaten to arrest Stern if he touched any of the records, and that he (Miller) held one of the records out in front of Stern, saying "take it", to create a pretense to arrest Stern. Miller also reported that the situation escalated into a standoff with the Phoenix Police, when they warned him not to attempt to arrest Stern.[73]
We've got a prick Sheriff in California, too. This one goes Joe Arpaio one better, by not only serving bad food, but requiring inmates to pay for it or starve. You can pretty much bank on one thing: When you see such flamboyant harshness, you are seeing authoritarian personalities at work, whether it be at Gitmo or in Arizona. The all-out fascist abuses always seem to come as a package with the pink underwear.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 12/24/2008 21:26:41
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2008 :  23:19:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, yeah, he is apparently little more than a common thug. he just happens to be in a position of authority.

Too bad. Hope he gets his ass handed to him.


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-- Thomas Jefferson

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Simon
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USA
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Posted - 12/25/2008 :  04:24:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner
Not only serving bad food, but requiring inmates to pay for it or starve.


Is that even fuckin' legal?
Wouldn't letting somebody get hungry be considered cruel and/or unusual?
Not to mention the fact that these guys are technically innocent as they have yet to be deferred in front of a court of law...

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 12/25/2008 :  06:10:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Simon

Originally posted by HalfMooner
Not only serving bad food, but requiring inmates to pay for it or starve.


Is that even fuckin' legal?
Wouldn't letting somebody get hungry be considered cruel and/or unusual?
Not to mention the fact that these guys are technically innocent as they have yet to be deferred in front of a court of law...
I wish I had the link. It's a news item a couple of weeks old, I think. The Sheriff said it wasn't his problem if the inmates refused to eat. And they are threatening a hunger strike. I'd call it more of a boycott, since they are expected to pay.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 12/25/2008 06:12:07
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2008 :  17:58:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Apparently, Fox has become quite enamored of this utter fascist prick, Arpaio. They are giving him his own "reality" TV show.


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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 12/27/2008 :  19:17:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

Apparently, Fox has become quite enamored of this utter fascist prick, Arpaio. They are giving him his own "reality" TV show.


Oh my. That's funny. The odd reality of the Fox network is that they have aired some of the most creative and subversive shows on television, along with things like the Alien Autopsy and other such nonsense. Once you get past the news department, which is nothing more than a bad joke, you get some of the strangest programing that TV has to offer.


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Why not question something for a change?

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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2008 :  21:37:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
FOX television also puts some hard left shows on TV (24 isn't their only show, lol), and it runs shows with blatant atheist characters.

Aside from their dumbass shit like the alien thing and the "documentary" about how the moon landings were faked... I kinda admire FOX TV.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2008 :  01:58:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
FOX gave us Firefly, than took it away.
If makes me feel as if Santa gave children candy, only to take it away from them for the perverse pleasure of seeing them cry.
A bull's horn up the rectum is what I wish Santa could give the FOX executives for Christmas for that cancelling.
(no I'm not upset...)

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