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Kil
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Posted - 02/24/2009 :  00:54:30  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Simple elixir called a 'miracle liquid

Electrolyzed water cleans, degreases -- and treats athlete's foot. The solution is replacing toxic chemicals.



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Why not question something for a change?

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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 02/24/2009 :  02:36:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Meh. If it won't power my scooter, what good is it?

Oh, wait. Maybe it will.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 02/24/2009 :  04:07:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, yes, fabulous indeed, but might it not wash the juju out of the baptismal founts, rendering the to-be baptised even less baptised and hell-bound for sure? Could Jesus walk on it without that same juju vanishing from his feet and causing him to sink & drown & disappoint the multitudes by not getting brutally nailed to a stick for their entertainment? The Bible doesn't mention anything of his swimming skills, you know.

We really must look carefully at the theological aspect of this before we can safely declare it any sort of a "miracle elixir."

Other than that, it's pretty damned good science that could go a long way toward cleaning up the environment. Less detergent run-off, fewer fresh-water algal blooms and, by extention, less swamp gas, fer 'xample.

And a less aggravating treatment for fungal infections than firmly rubbing straight Clorox inio the scabby, little bastards!




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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tw101356
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USA
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Posted - 02/24/2009 :  05:25:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send tw101356 a Private Message  Reply with Quote

It turns out that zapping salt water with low-voltage electricity creates a couple of powerful yet nontoxic cleaning agents. Sodium ions are converted into sodium hydroxide, an alkaline liquid that cleans and degreases like detergent, but without the scrubbing bubbles. Chloride ions become hypochlorous acid, a potent disinfectant known as acid water.


Of course it's a degreaser, it contains lye. Of course it's a disinfectant, it contains an acid. Of course it doesn't stay potent long in the bottle, the acid and base in solution react with each other. Probably doesn't ship and store well for the latter reason.

If it's cheaper and less harmful to the environment to make this stuff up on site with salt water and an eletrolyzing machine versus manufacturing and shipping a cleaning product, then that would be the benefit, but in and of itself it's no miracle. It's just lye water with an acid in it.


- TW
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astropin
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Posted - 02/25/2009 :  09:59:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send astropin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Additional info:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/08/000825082333.htm

Deadly For Bacteria, Great For Consumers

ScienceDaily (Aug. 25, 2000) — Electrolyzed water rivals chlorine and heat for killing E. coli, salmonella and listeria


Note the age of the article.

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You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.

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