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HalfMooner
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 Posted - 02/24/2009 : 18:25:00
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After I posted the first image below in another thread, Randy sent me a suggestion that I should try others:
I had made that first one as a quickie one-shot deal, and hadn't thought of it as a one of a category I might expand upon. I thought Randy had a great idea. What I'm doing is showing actual Christian T-Shirt designs, with added, and contradictory, Biblical quotations.
So here goes:
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Edited by - HalfMooner on 02/24/2009 18:25:35
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astropin
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Posted - 02/25/2009 : 09:25:50 [Permalink]
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| I think that last one is the gayest thing I've ever read. :) |
I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.
You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.
Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.
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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 02/25/2009 : 10:24:28 [Permalink]
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| still, it doesnt exactly say John put his peener in Saul's butt though does it. |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 02/25/2009 : 11:10:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
still, it doesnt exactly say John put his peener in Saul's butt though does it.
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What do you think "gave him the sword" is a euphemism for?
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 02/25/2009 : 11:13:49 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
still, it doesnt exactly say John put his peener in Saul's butt though does it.
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That would have put the romantic story over the edge and into blatant gay porn.
Now, that would have been something to read in the bible... (Not that I'm into that kind of literature, I prefer sci-fi or fantacy aŽla David Eddings) |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/25/2009 : 12:21:25 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
still, it doesnt exactly say John put his peener in Saul's butt though does it.
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You're certainly right. No overt sexual act is described. But the romance of David and Jonathan does stand in vivid contrast to the commands of Leviticus 20:13 to kill all homosexuals.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 02/26/2009 : 06:17:09 [Permalink]
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What do you think "gave him the sword" is a euphemism for?
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Maybe it isn't a euphamism?
It doesn't say he took off his clothes and gave him his sword.
It says he gave him his clothes including his sword, bow and girdle. I don't see why any one of these is an obvious euphamism and not the others. |
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 02/26/2009 : 08:29:17 [Permalink]
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I agree that its not clear, however considering how the good book mentions the other similar instances I have to agree with the gay version. The word 'Delighted" is used euphimisticly a few times.
Later on the same subject...
I Samuel 20:30
Then Saul's anger was kindled against Jonathan, and he said unto him, Thou son of the perverse rebellious woman, do not I know that thou hast chosen the son of Jesse to thine own confusion, and unto the confusion of thy mother's nakedness?
2 Samuel 1:26
I am distressed for thee, my brother Jonathan: very pleasant hast thou been unto me: thy love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women.
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It is the standard Biblical vagueness which is the problem. If they would have just used modern english, this would be a lot easier.
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"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/26/2009 : 12:16:40 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
2 Samuel 1:26
I am distressed for thee, my brother Jonathan: very pleasant hast thou been unto me: thy love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women. |
To me, that verse calls for the gay conclusion. David is not simply speaking of love for his fellow man in the general sense. I think it's clear he's talking about erotic love.
He's comparing his love for Jonathan not to his love of other close male friends (platonic love), but specifically to his love for women (erotic love). And women come up short measured against Jonathan in David's comparison.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 03/01/2009 : 16:17:50 [Permalink]
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Ricky
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 03/01/2009 : 17:12:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ricky
Half, I think you're onto something that you might be able to legitimately sell. But the quotes have to be much shorter and to the point for the shirts to really work well. A "sound-bite" if you will.
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Yeah, for selling, I agree. The first batch were more like "rebuttal" shirts.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Randy
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Posted - 03/01/2009 : 17:37:16 [Permalink]
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I used to run a screen printing dept. at our textbook store, another lifetime ago. Would be fun to print a line of infidel shirts...help get the message out there. Course, I sold the equipment back then; wish I still had the stuff for things like this. (Set up a godless 'r us' t-shirt 'n things table at the Amazing meeting  ). |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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Zebra
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Posted - 03/01/2009 : 21:15:20 [Permalink]
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Then there are these potentially suggestive lines from the NT:
Mark 14:51-52 (NIV): A young man, wearing nothing but a linen garment, was following Jesus. When they seized him, he fled naked, leaving his garment behind.
John 13:23-25 (NIV): One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved, was reclining next to him. Simon Peter motioned to this disciple and said, "Ask him which one he means." Leaning back against Jesus, he asked him, "Lord, who is it?"
John 15:1-7 (NIV): "I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. Remain in me, and I will remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be given you."
Not that everyone will agree with the more salacious interpretation of these passages.[/understatement] |
I think, you know, freedom means freedom for everyone* -Dick Cheney
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 03/02/2009 : 01:46:18 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Randy
I used to run a screen printing dept. at our textbook store, another lifetime ago. Would be fun to print a line of infidel shirts...help get the message out there. Course, I sold the equipment back then; wish I still had the stuff for things like this. (Set up a godless 'r us' t-shirt 'n things table at the Amazing meeting ).
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Maybe one or two of these designs could be used by SFN's Cafe Press store. If certain ones were chosen for actual sale, though, I'd want to substitute original art, rather than use what I'd found on the Web. For instance, the "Possum" clipart. I'll ask my daughter if she could whip up a simple possum replacement.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2009 : 01:51:13 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Zebra
Then there are these potentially suggestive lines from the NT:
Mark 14:51-52 (NIV): A young man, wearing nothing but a linen garment, was following Jesus. When they seized him, he fled naked, leaving his garment behind.
John 13:23-25 (NIV): One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved, was reclining next to him. Simon Peter motioned to this disciple and said, "Ask him which one he means." Leaning back against Jesus, he asked him, "Lord, who is it?"
John 15:1-7 (NIV): "I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. Remain in me, and I will remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be given you."
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Those are good, thanks!
Maybe I'll consider a series of shirt images with contrasting Biblical messages, like the Leviticus kill-the-gays thing contrasted with Jesus snuggling with his boy-toy.
"Dueling Bible Verses"? They would be very verbose, though, if they were real shirts.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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