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hholdings
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Posted - 02/27/2009 :  08:09:48  Show Profile  Visit hholdings's Homepage Send hholdings a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Obama promised to withdraw the troops from Iraq in 16 months. Now, it appears that he will make a partial withdrawal in 19 months down to 50,000 troops or a shade less and call that support troops. 50,000 troops-support?, you got to be kidding. All that is a renaming of combat troops to support troops and they will continue to have the same weapons and do what they're doing now. This appears to be Bush policies-hide the real Iraq stuff. After all, Bush signed an agreement with the Iraq Government for troops to be out of Iraq by the end of 2011. Sounds to me that Obama is backing out of his campaign promise and following the Bush's doctrine with minor modifications.

Gorgo
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Posted - 02/27/2009 :  08:49:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like what Paul Street says about Obama:

It matches former Clinton administration official David Rothkopf's early post-election observation that Obama was following the "violin model: you hold power with the left hand and you play the music with the right."


It fits New Yorker writer Larissa MacFarquhar's description (in May of 2007) of Obama as a "deeply conservative" individual who "values continuity and stability for their own sake, sometimes even more than he values change for the good" and Ryan Lizza's portrait (also in The New Yorker, in July of 2008) of Obama as someone who has been "marked" at "every stage of his political career" by "an eagerness to accommodate himself to existing institutions."


If reflects well on the left black political scientist Adolph Reed Jr.'s following description of Obama at the very beginning of the future president's political career in 1996: "a smooth Harvard lawyer with impeccable credentials and vacuous-to-repressive neoliberal politics."


It fits the comment by a leading Washington lobbyist, who told journalist Ken Silverstein in 2006 that big donors would not be helping out Obama if they didn't see him as a "player" for "What's the dollar value of a starry-eyed idealist?'" (Ken Silverstein, "Barack Obama, Inc.: The Birth of a Washington Machine," Harper's, November 2006).

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The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
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Grayven
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Posted - 02/27/2009 :  19:03:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Grayven a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Meet the new boss........
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 02/28/2009 :  23:44:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't expect instant and total reversal of all Bush's policies.

But Obama is beginning to sound a lot like a run of the mill corpratist democrat.

Oh illusions, why can't you for once turn out to have substance?

....And my mother wonders why I am so cynical.


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-- Thomas Jefferson

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The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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