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HalfMooner
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Posted - 03/11/2009 :  19:49:45  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hat tip to PZ Myers for this. The Danionella dracula is a carp-like fish, which is apparently unique for growing toothlike bones that erupt from its jaws and serve like teeth.


Yes, the fish is named for Count Dracula.

According to The Telegraph:
A spectacular new "dracula" fish has been discovered, the only species of carp-like fishes to have "teeth".


By Kate Devlin
Last Updated: 8:46AM GMT 11 Mar 2009
Dracula fish: New 'dracula' fish discovered

Zoologists say that the bones which hang down from the mouth of the miniature fish make it unique among the 3,700 known species of carp-like fishes, which lost their jaw teeth 50 million years ago.

The fish, which measures just over 16 millimetres in length, was discovered near Mogaung in Burma, the only place in the world it has been found.

Scientists have described its features as "extraordinary" and believe it is one of the most interesting vertebrates to be identified in recent decades
This is a bigger deal that it might appear on the surface, because toothed fish evolved their dentition from scales, not from bones. Carp lost their teeth long ago, but his one fish has evolved an alternative way to enhance its smile.

National Geographic also has a brief article.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.

Edited by - HalfMooner on 03/11/2009 19:50:11

filthy
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Posted - 03/12/2009 :  03:03:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The first thing I thought after reading the article was: "Wow, an aquarium-sized version of this!"



The two are scarcly related, of course, but it's very interesting to note that the ancient Placoderms were not the only ones that evolution got and continues to get weird with.




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HalfMooner
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Posted - 03/12/2009 :  03:53:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy

The first thing I thought after reading the article was: "Wow, an aquarium-sized version of this!"

The two are scarcly related, of course, but it's very interesting to note that the ancient Placoderms were not the only ones that evolution got and continues to get weird with.

I wouldn't want to go swimming where Dunkleosteus prowled. That is one nasty beak it has. BTW, Fil, do you know if those "gnathal plates" that make up the Dunk's beak are made up of scale tissue, or of bone?


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Posted - 03/12/2009 :  04:01:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

Originally posted by filthy

The first thing I thought after reading the article was: "Wow, an aquarium-sized version of this!"

The two are scarcly related, of course, but it's very interesting to note that the ancient Placoderms were not the only ones that evolution got and continues to get weird with.

I wouldn't want to go swimming where Dunkleosteus prowled. That is one nasty beak it has. BTW, Fil, do you know if those "gnathal plates" that make up the Dunk's beak are made up of scale tissue, or of bone?


Solid bone, ever sharpening by it's jaws rubbing against each other and growing constantly. This is, arguably, among the most ferocious predators ever with a bite pressure to rival T. rex. It could chop chunks out of any shark of any size with ease. Neat!




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HalfMooner
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Posted - 03/12/2009 :  04:05:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd call the fellow a bonehead, but only from a safe distance from the water.

So it seems that the use of bone instead of scales adapted as teeth has evolved more than once.


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Edited by - HalfMooner on 03/12/2009 04:13:17
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filthy
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Posted - 03/12/2009 :  04:21:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

I'd call the fellow a bonehead, but only from a safe distance from the water.


Indeed, indeed. But I'd trade a testicle to actually see one alive.

I have seen the Dunkleosteous fossil display at the Cleveland Museum of Natural History. This animal was impressive beyond my poor powers of description. It's only natural enemy was another Dunk and not necessarily a larger one. Fossils have been found with bite scars that could have been caused by nothing else.




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Posted - 03/12/2009 :  07:32:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yep; that's mighty cool!

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